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Birth Certs

  • 02-06-2005 9:44am
    #1
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭


    I know similar threadds have been posted before but here I go anyway.

    I had to get a copy of my Birth Cert this morning for my new passport.
    Anyway I went into the GRO and filled out the form with the following details:
    Full Name
    DOB
    Place of birth
    Fathers name
    Mothers Maiden name

    About 15 minutes later I was given my Birth cert after I handed over €6.98. I was never asked for any form of ID

    My point being does anyone know of any checks they make to cross reference to make sure that the person is not dead?

    What is there to stop people doing a little research and getting a Birth Cert fraudulantly.

    Just a little bit worrying.


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  • #2
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Tippex wrote:
    About 15 minutes later I was given my Birth cert after I handed over €6.98. I was never asked for any form of ID

    My point being does anyone know of any checks they make to cross reference to make sure that the person is not dead?

    What is there to stop people doing a little research and getting a Birth Cert fraudulantly.
    Very little. A well-known scam by criminals back when the likes of the General were around, was to check the register of deaths for children who died at or soon after birth. Then you check the register of births, get the relevant info, and claim a birth cert in that name.


  • #3
    Sleipnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Well known cos Frederick Forsyth wrote how to do it tn "The Day of The Jackal" back in the sixties when The General was a wee lad.


  • #4
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    i saw an underage girl a few weeks back showing a birth cert to the bouncers in a vain effort to get in the bar! needless to say they werent buying it


  • #5
    OFDM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭OFDM


    toiletduck wrote:
    i saw an underage girl a few weeks back showing a birth cert to the bouncers in a vain effort to get in the bar! needless to say they werent buying it
    Ironic, as that's all you need to get a passport, which would then get you in...


  • #6
    lilulila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭lilulila


    I was able to pick up a copy of my boyfriends birth cert for his driving licence no probs. No checks or anything


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  • #7
    Borzoi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Borzoi


    Tippex wrote:
    About 15 minutes later I was given my Birth cert after I handed over €6.98. I was never asked for any form of ID
    .

    Why would you be? These are public records.

    BTW I once had to pick one up for my great aunt living in Oz. It would be a little unreasonable to expect her to come over to get a cert - esp as she needed the cert - so she could get a passport - so she could come over. :D


  • #8
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I know they are public records but the thing is your Birth Cert is the basis of all legal documents.

    It seems far to easy to be able to assume another identity if you were so inclined.

    And if someone did assume your identity and managed to defraud a company or the state what sort of come back would you have if the powers that be went looking for you?


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