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Sunday Tribune hemorrhaging €90,000 a week

  • 28-05-2005 2:51pm
    #1
    smiaras
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  • #2
    flogen
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    I'm not a big fan of the Tribune at all, excusing Ross O Carroll Kelly, but it's never good to see a paper in trouble on the already poor Sunday market.
    Little fact, The Irish Times was once likely to buy the Tribune and make its way into the Sunday market, but that didn't happen. This, mind you was long before The Irish Times as we know it (the trust etc.) was around.

    I'm sure Ross will continue with his books, smiaras. I don't know if blogs and podcasts can be blamed for this trouble, I'd expect the Tribunes explanations are more accurate.


  • #3
    flogen
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    Oh, and I don't see newspapers ever dying, not for a long time, anyway. Even as PDA's become more popular, people still prefer a reliable newspaper. If Papers have survived against TV, Radio and the Internet so far, I dont see blogs being any worse a threat.
    I hate this rival mentality, papers are as much to blame as blogs, but I think there's a place for both. I think we'll just see more convergence by 2007, maybe some big Journalists having blogs or even newspapers.


  • #4
    Brendan552004
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    I have started to buy the Sunday Tribune, I am fed up with the Sunday Indo Irish Times/Sinn Fein bashing and Tony O'Reilly praising.


  • #5
    Genghis
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    imho, the Sunday Tribune is the best Irish Sunday paper. The Sunday Independent has been watering down now for some time, and it holds little or no appeal for me.

    The Sunday Business Post has also dumbed down, but in a different way - too much of their output is advertorial. I used to buy this and the Sunday Tribune, but found I didn't miss it at all once I stopped.

    If I want something different in a Sunday paper, I look towards the Observer, and occassionally the Sunday Times. These are rare purchases, though.

    So, I'd be unhappy to see the Sunday Tribune fold.


  • #6
    Scruff
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    Havent bought a sunday paper in a while, been too hung over to read, but when i do its either the Times or Tribune. Think the Indo is is an absolute rag on a sunday.

    My cousin works in the Tribune. he used love it but says its gone down hill rapidly since christmas. They've cut loads of staff and staff - management relations are at an all time low. He thinks its only a matter of time before they close or there is an outside chance the independent group might just buy them out to kill them off. Think the independent group has a 30% stake in them as it is.


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  • #7
    flogen
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    Scruff wrote:
    Havent bought a sunday paper in a while, been too hung over to read, but when i do its either the Times or Tribune. Think the Indo is is an absolute rag on a sunday.

    My cousin works in the Tribune. he used love it but says its gone down hill rapidly since christmas. They've cut loads of staff and staff - management relations are at an all time low. He thinks its only a matter of time before they close or there is an outside chance the independent group might just buy them out to kill them off. Think the independent group has a 30% stake in them as it is.

    If the independent group did buy the Tribune, they wouldn't kill it off, they'd probably just change its editorial stance a little to make sure it didn't clash with any of their current Sunday publications, they'd also cut as many corners as they could until it was profitable. There's always a chance that they would make the Tribune more hard-nosed to try and rival the Sunday Times, it's probably something they would have done with the Sunday Independent if it wasn't so popular as a tabloid.


  • #8
    jmcc
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    flogen wrote:
    If the independent group did buy the Tribune, they wouldn't kill it off, they'd probably just change its editorial stance a little to make sure it didn't clash with any of their current Sunday publications,
    Doesn't the Indo group have defacto control of the Tribune?
    they'd also cut as many corners as they could until it was profitable.
    Which is what has been happening for the last few years. Now the paper is being padded out with articles from O'Reilly's UK publications since they cost less than real journalists.
    There's always a chance that they would make the Tribune more hard-nosed to try and rival the Sunday Times, it's probably something they would have done with the Sunday Independent if it wasn't so popular as a tabloid.
    The Sindo is written, mainly, by people who can't think for those who don't want to. The Tribune was a good paper once and capable of a hard news angle. Now it is just another Sunday OpEd paper in a market full of them.

    Regards...jmcc


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