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Darwinism Is On The Retreat

  • 27-05-2005 8:02am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO DECEIVE THE WORLD!

    Darwinism suggests that transitional fossils exist when they do not ... It offers invalid proofs ... Although all the fossils discovered clearly verify creation it maintains the exact opposite ... It seeks to have people believe that artists, scientists and professors could come into being as the result of chance, by way of proteins, the chances of which themselves coming into existence by chance are 1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility." It even seeks to convince people that the professors who thus emerge are founding universities to examine how they, themselves, came into being by chance.

    Darwinism regards the way that the chromosome in a living cell contains more coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance... It claims that unseeing, unhearing, unfeeling and unconscious atoms turned into seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking and conscious human beings stems from the divine power of chance… For Darwinism, chance is a deity that works miracles. In these works you can see how the dark spell of Darwinism has been eliminated.


    DARWINISM ON RETREAT


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    sure, darwinism is on the retreat alright :rolleyes: i think theres a thread for this (creatationism vs. evolution) in the Christianity forum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Darwin had a beard, you have to believe what he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    lahokamal wrote:
    1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility."
    That makes me sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    Well actually on the whole Protein strain and the odds of it, those odd of yours are unneccessary. The protein strain did not have to form all at once. In fact multiple combinations of strain could have formed and then these join together. You are talking as if the protein strains were unformed and then completely formed in one instance. This didn't likely happen, although it is possible, the protein strains evolved just like most animals do now-a-days.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    lahokamal
    take your lunatic ramblings somewhere else, most people in here have enough brain cells to think for themselves, unlike your good self


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Your honour, I present exhibit A for the banning of religion...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    site wide banned
    B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Beruthiel --move this to irish skeptics, their all amhadains in there, who do nothing but talk pony all day, :D this is probably one in disguise

    (edit oops oops, why was he banned, )


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I'll let the AH Mods decide on that one Med :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Beruthiel wrote:
    I'll let the AH Mods decide on that one Med :D

    Okey dokey... :o /retreats carefully/banning stick is out]]

    (ah now i see, you dont mod here)silly me :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Out of curiousity, why an earth was he banned...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    I think it was because he is pretty obvoiously a religious person who has just joined boards so that he could pimp his site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    He converted me, now I believe God did it all, just from that post.



    ...really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Crucifix wrote:
    That makes me sad.

    actually, its 10 to the power of 950, with is an unfeasibly large number it has to be said.
    whether or not it is accurate, is entirely another thing...

    but an utterly engagin site all the same.

    its just always humourous to me when ht creationist bunch attack darwanism. because darwanism is only a theory, and its not a full theory, but more a basis. and was never accurate anyway.
    but by attacking the holes in a theory, this somehow makes creationism more likely?

    i mean you can poke holes in darwanism all you want, but i ahve never seen god, ive never heard god, ive never wittnessed any of gods works, and ive never heard any account of anyone wittnessing his works. in a reliable fashion. the bible doesnt count.

    /in the mood for a full on creationist fight today


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    lahokamal wrote:
    ... are 1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility." ...

    Which of course explains why no person has ever won the lotto.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    i ahve never seen god, ive never heard god, ive never wittnessed any of gods works, and ive never heard any account of anyone wittnessing his works. in a reliable fashion. the bible doesnt count.
    Aye. And I've seen (and touched) dinasour bones. Havn't seen God yet.

    Here lies the "God" problem. If God killed them, will he kill us as well, as we're nuking each other these days. If God didn't kill them, how did they all die.

    So, Darwinism is dead, you say? I say that your lying! How else could we have come into existance? And why create plagues that would kill off 1,000's of holy people?

    Answer me!!!

    Oh, sorry, I forgot, ye don't exist, do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    I've never heard any account of anyone wittnessing his works. i

    You've never heard accouts from thousands and thousands of people who have claimed to witness miracles? You've led a sheltered life then! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Out of curiousity, why an earth was he banned...?
    People who register just to pimp something with no likely intention of ever contributing to a discussion or making norms laugh deserve worse than banning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Eh.

    Google the Anthropic Principle, look for the weak version, and you can see the answer for this kind of bull****.

    (For those who are too lazy...)

    The short version: The anthropic principle is one used in physics and other sciences to explain why certain things that are essential for life that are highly unlikely to have happened in a random universe happened.

    It quite simply and succiently states that these factors are the way they are because even a slight variation in them would mean that we could not exist to observe them.

    Or in simpler terms, the world is able to support human life because if it couldn't we couldn't exist to observe it's ability to support human life.

    People see these "big probability numbers" and jump on them without giving any real thought to why they are the way they are.


    A number of learned scientific and religious/spiritual people take the anthropic principle as proof of some spiritual entity that "created the universe". (the strong version kinda)

    But that is being subjective. It's equally valid to say that all these things just are the way they are by chance. The whole point being that if they were different we couldn't observe them.


    The key issue is the importance of humanity.

    The Religious/Spiritual/Dogmatic View: Humanity is the most important thing in this universe and the universe is shaped and moulded in order to allow the existence of humanity.

    The Nihilistic View: Humanity is a bunch of congregated cells that apparently shows signs of intelligence. The fact that the universe exists in such a way to make this possible is purely coincidence and is completely unrelated to us.


    Personally, I think it's being mightly egotistical to assume that this entire universe was created for us. I don't view humanity as anything particularily special in the grand scheme of things, it's a ****ing big universe and we're just a tiny part of it. Get over yourselves and go pursue happiness rather than preaching from the pulpit to those who do not want to listen.

    If you find happiness and fulfillment in religion, more power to you, you have fun with that. Just don't assume you have any kind of right to force me into participating. You don't.


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