Design Request - Flamewar

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 12:11am #1

Fusion251 wrote:

What about this one?

That's not a logo.

I think someone's just finished a text reflection tutorial for photoshop and robbed a pic of a dodgy looking chair from somewhere tbh.

That would look dreadful if you tried to scale it.
Have you never heard of vectors?
I hear they're used quite often in logo design. :rolleyes:

Logo's are generally used in an number of different places.
A website, headed note paper, business cards or even on the side of a van.
How do you think your logo would look blown up on the side of a van or shrunken down to fit on a business card?

Fergal

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:38am

BusinessTime wrote:

That's not a logo.

I think someone's just finished a text reflection tutorial for photoshop and robbed a pic of a dodgy looking chair from somewhere tbh.

That would look dreadful if you tried to scale it.
Have you never heard of vectors?
I hear they're used quite often in logo design. :rolleyes:

Logo's are generally used in an number of different places.
A website, headed note paper, business cards or even on the side of a van.
How do you think your logo would look blown up on the side of a van or shrunken down to fit on a business card?

Fergal

Oh I see, a dickead know it all, very nice...show me how it should be done then asshole?

Fusion
:cool:

jesus_thats_gre · 21-05-2005 12:41am

Nice reply

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 12:43am

Fusion251 wrote:

Oh I see, a dickead know it all, very nice...show me how it should be done then asshole?

Fusion
:cool:

Oh, i see i've hit on a raw nerve here.

I didn't mean to belittle your effort.

It's just the guy asked for a logo and what you've given him couldn't possibly be used as a logo, not in it's current form.

If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be designing, it's part and parcel of design.

You obviously don't work in design because with an attitude like that, you wouldn't last long.
You'd tell a paying customer that didn't like your work to F off?
I don't think so.

Fergal

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:44am

BusinessTime wrote:

That's not a logo.

I think someone's just finished a text reflection tutorial for photoshop and robbed a pic of a dodgy looking chair from somewhere tbh.

That would look dreadful if you tried to scale it.
Have you never heard of vectors?
I hear they're used quite often in logo design. :rolleyes:

Logo's are generally used in an number of different places.
A website, headed note paper, business cards or even on the side of a van.
How do you think your logo would look blown up on the side of a van or shrunken down to fit on a business card?

Fergal

And yes u smart **** I have heard of vectors, but in a photoshoppage forum I didn't think it would be necessary to use illustrator and create a vector graphic for something that wil be used on a project and probably not need to be resized.

You do a good design. If you do, fair play you've put me in my place, if not
F U.

Fusion

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:47am

BusinessTime wrote:

Oh, i see i've hit on a raw nerve here.

I didn't mean to belittle your effort.

It's just the guy asked for a logo and what you've given him couldn't possibly be used as a logo, not in it's current form.

If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be designing, it's part and parcel of design.

You obviously don't work in design because with an attitude like that, you wouldn't last long.
You'd tell a paying customer that didn't like your work to F off?
I don't think so.

Fergal

No I don't work in design, and yes I will take an opinion from you as long as you can back it up with some suggestions, which as of yet I havn't heard or seen from you.

You can't just write a criticism and not back it up.

Fusion

kjt · 21-05-2005 12:48am

Jesus... The fun is in here tonight I see

Chillax man CHILLAX

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 12:52am

Fusion251 wrote:

And yes u smart **** I have heard of vectors, but in a photoshoppage forum I didn't think it would be necessary to use illustrator and create a vector graphic for something that wil be used on a project and probably not need to be resized.

You do a good design. If you do, fair play you've put me in my place, if not
F U.

Fusion

Is it really necessary to be so rude?
I've just pointed out some flaws in your design.
And you've flown off the handle.

I thought we were trying to help Solitary with a logo for his mum?

Fergal

jesus_thats_gre · 21-05-2005 12:52am

BusinessTime wrote:

That would look dreadful if you tried to scale it.
Have you never heard of vectors?
I hear they're used quite often in logo design. :rolleyes:

Fergal

In fairness Fergal, you could hardly call this constructive criticism.. What you are saying is very possibly true but I could see myself being offended by the wording and tone in general used.

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:54am

kjt wrote:

Jesus... The fun is in here tonight I see

Chillax man CHILLAX

It's not me man it's some nobhead called BusinessTime.

I'm happy to see any design he comes up with....but as of yet, I havn't seen one.

Fusion
:cool:

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:55am

BusinessTime wrote:

Is it really necessary to be so rude?
I've just pointed out some flaws in your design.
And you've flown off the handle.

I thought we were trying to help Solitary with a logo for his mum?

Fergal

Help then...make a better logo?

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 12:56am

Fusion251 wrote:

No I don't work in design, and yes I will take an opinion from you as long as you can back it up with some suggestions, which as of yet I havn't heard or seen from you.

You can't just write a criticism and not back it up.

Fusion

Ok, well fair play for your effort.
Perhaps you should read up on logo design, it will help you in the future.

Here's some good advice for logo creation by non-designers .
You might find it useful.

Fergal

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 12:58am

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

In fairness Fergal, you could hardly call this constructive criticism.. What you are saying is very possibly true but I could see myself being offended by the wording and tone in general used.

I understand.
Perhaps it was a poor choice of words.

Fergal

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 12:58am

BusinessTime wrote:

Ok, well fair play for your effort.
Perhaps you should read up on logo design, it will help you in the future.

Here's some good advice for logo creation by non-designers .
You might find it useful.

Fergal

I don't need advice. I want you to make a logo smart ass.

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 1:01am

Fusion251 wrote:

It's not me man it's some nobhead called BusinessTime.

I'm happy to see any design he comes up with....but as of yet, I havn't seen one.

Fusion
:cool:

What's with all the name calling?
Can we not keep things civilised?

I've made it clear that i meant no offence with my first post.

Fergal

Giblet · 21-05-2005 1:02am

Vectorise a complicated Bitmap! WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE DO IT! Oh Wai

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 1:03am

BusinessTime wrote:

What's with all the name calling?
Can we not keep things civilised?

I've made it clear that i meant no offence with my first post.

Fergal

O.k but still you havn't made any effort to create a logo which is what this forum is about. So why are you even posting here?

Don't post again or make a logo as requested.

Fusion

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 1:07am

Giblet wrote:

Vectorise a complicated Bitmap! WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE DO IT! Oh Wai

I never said he should vectorize the complicated bitmap.
He should never have used the bitmap in the first place.
Let's not kid ourselves here, bitmaps are not used in logo design except maybe for inspiration.

Fergal

Giblet · 21-05-2005 1:13am

He did it in his own time and for free. I don't see your problem.

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 1:13am

Giblet wrote:

Vectorise a complicated Bitmap! WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE DO IT! Oh Wai

Yes Mr Moderator

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 1:15am

Giblet wrote:

He did it in his own time and for free. I don't see your problem.

Exactly, where is your contribution BusinessTime?

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 1:16am

Giblet wrote:

He did it in his own time and for free. I don't see your problem.

Why is everyone jumping down my throat on this.
I've already said i may have chosen my words poorly.
But it was fair criticism.
The fact that Fusion can't take it, isn't down to me.

Fergal

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 1:19am

Fusion251 wrote:

Yes Mr Moderator

Giblet isn't even a moderator of this forum.
And while i respect his opinion on the matter your sycophantic attempt at humour is really quite unnecessary.

Fergal

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 1:21am

BusinessTime wrote:

Why is everyone jumping down my throat on this.
I've already said i may have chosen my words poorly.
But it was fair criticism.
The fact that Fusion can't take it, isn't down to me.

Fergal

My point is. This forum is for a reason. It's not a "what do you think of this?" forum, it's a "can you help me out with a design?" forum.

Therefore criticism is not needed unless constructive, which yours wasn't.

What is needed in the forum is what was asked for. A design.

Can you contribute?

If not, don't waste your time typing. Because I don't want to read it. Simple.

Fusion

Giblet · 21-05-2005 1:21am

What the hell is that about?

Fusion251 · 21-05-2005 1:23am

BusinessTime wrote:

Giblet isn't even a moderator of this forum.
And while i respect his opinion on the matter your sycophantic attempt at humour is really quite unnecessary.

Fergal

Anyway I'm off to bed now noobie. 11 posts. I don't know why I'm even wasting my time with you.

Fusion

BusinessTime · 21-05-2005 1:28am

Fusion251 wrote:

Anyway I'm off to bed now noobie. 11 posts. I don't know why I'm even wasting my time with you.

Fusion

I'm sorry but what does my post count have anything to do with the issue at hand?

I've been reading this forum for quite some time, as well as the rest of the site.
Thankfully from my time on this site, i've learned that you don't represent the majority of posters.
If you did, there wouldn't be much of a community here.

Fergal

CuLT · 21-05-2005 7:54am

Jesus christ, grow up the pair of you.

and BusinessTime, you brought this upon yourself by being pointlessly antagonistic.
Continuation of this argument in the original thread will be rewarded with bannings.

Design Request - Flamewar

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