Aerlingus -> germany - Passport?

axer

Hi y'all,

Travelling to germany next week with aerlingues. Is my full licence enough ID or do I need/should i bring my passport?

Thanks.

Victor

Passport needed, although they may not necessarily insist. Best to have it, the Germans don't like people without the proper paperwork.

You can get one quite quickly through the Post Office or direct in Passport Office.

jhegarty

axer wrote:

Hi y'all,

Travelling to germany next week with aerlingues. Is my full licence enough ID or do I need/should i bring my passport?

Thanks.

yep , uk is the only place you can go without a passport...

axer

so much for the EU and free/easy movement of peoples. Guess I'd better start routing for my pastport then. Thanks.

Dublin8

hey hey you better take ur passport other wise u may not b able to enter ireland again

hhehe germans might spare you but people at irish airport wont :eek:

Larianne

axer wrote:

Hi y'all,

Travelling to germany next week with aerlingues. Is my full licence enough ID or do I need/should i bring my passport?

Thanks.

Why do people alwasy ask, do I need to bring my passport here, here or here..? Not matter what foreign country I go to I bring my passport. It saves less hassle and although you maybe ok getting out of this country being let into another or fly back out of another is risky.

It's part of travelling, get a bleedin' passport!

Larianne

It's due to all the high security risks blah blah...

The new passports are cool though!! Got mine last week. No chance of faking these bad boys!!

axer

Larianne wrote:

It's due to all the high security risks blah blah...

The new passports are cool though!! Got mine last week. No chance of faking these bad boys!!

are they the ones that fit in your wallet?

I wouldnt bring my passport if I didnt have to - I have to spend ages looking for it now. I went to UK with just full licence a year and a half ago cos I keep it in my wallet anyways so nothing extra to carry around - was 99% sure that I didnt need it anywhere in EU, guess i thought wrong.

Larianne

axer wrote:

are they the ones that fit in your wallet?

I wouldnt bring my passport if I didnt have to - I have to spend ages looking for it now. I went to UK with just full licence a year and a half ago cos I keep it in my wallet anyways so nothing extra to carry around - was 99% sure that I didnt need it anywhere in EU, guess i thought wrong.

No the new one, the 10 year one I got anyway, is slightly bigger than the usual (old) ones. The picture is actually printed onto the card (like the national age card) so unable to just stick another picture over it (which I think,fakers did with the old ones) and also, where your details are on the main section of the page, your picture can be seen if the page is hel up to the light. The page is perfurated with tiny holes (I think) to form your picture. Kinda like the way if you hold up money to the light etc..

Well I thought it was cool looking... :rolleyes:

Spocker

axer wrote:

Hi y'all,

Travelling to germany next week with aerlingues. Is my full licence enough ID or do I need/should i bring my passport?

Thanks.

I travel through Frankfurt airport a lot and you will have to go through Passport Control and show your passport when entering and leaving - everybody does. You'll also be asked to produce on the way back though Ireland as well.

And you'll have to show when boarding in Dublin now that I think about it (you'll get away with the Easypass checkin and security check but they will ask airside....)

Have fun in the Fatherland!

jor el

axer wrote:

was 99% sure that I didnt need it anywhere in EU, guess i thought wrong.

There is free travel within the EU for all EU citizens, you don't need a visa and there's no customs. However, you still need to prove you are an EU citizen and the only way to do this is with a passport. I could be wrong on the reasoning here but anyway, you still need the passport.

I always find it funny when people loose or misplace their passport. It's a very valuable document and should always be kept somewhere safe, ideally in a safe, and not just thrown in the bottom of a wardrobe or left in the glove box of your car.

Larianne

jor el wrote:

There is free travel within the EU for all EU citizens, you don't need a visa and there's no customs. However, you still need to prove you are an EU citizen and the only way to do this is with a passport. I could be wrong on the reasoning here but anyway, you still need the passport.

I always find it funny when people loose or misplace their passport. It's a very valuable document and should always be kept somewhere safe, ideally in a safe, and not just thrown in the bottom of a wardrobe or left in the glove box of your car.

Totally agree with ya! My new one cost me 82 feckin euro! If you get into difficulty in a foreign country you don't want to be without your passport!

Squirrel

You need it, should this not be in the travel fotum??

Dades

Larianne wrote:

Totally agree with ya! My new one cost me 82 feckin euro!

WTF?! 82 Euro?!

It'd be cheaper to get everyone in Germany to fly over here and speak German and wear lederhosen.

rob1891

jor el wrote:

There is free travel within the EU for all EU citizens, you don't need a visa and there's no customs. However, you still need to prove you are an EU citizen and the only way to do this is with a passport. I could be wrong on the reasoning here but anyway, you still need the passport.

Wouldn't need the passport if we were members of Schengen though the airlines probably wouldn't want to give us our tickets.

Larianne

The Atheist wrote:

WTF?! 82 Euro?!

It'd be cheaper to get everyone in Germany to fly over here and speak German and wear lederhosen.

Yes for a 10 year standard Passport it's 75 euros. I paid an extra 7 for it to be express posted. Yeah, disgrace. So hold on to yours and keep it safe. (mine got stolen in Barcelona!)

ferdi

Ausweis bitte!

gimmick

axer wrote:

Travelling to germany next week with aerlingues. Is my full licence enough ID or do I need/should i bring my passport?

Thanks.

Cant be clearer than this. I was going away on a stag wknd last sat morning to Amsterburg, and one of the lads' passport was out of date. He had to stay at home, while we went and had a great time.

kasintahan

rob1891 wrote:

Wouldn't need the passport if we were members of Schengen though the airlines probably wouldn't want to give us our tickets.

Yeah we didn't sign up because Britan didn't and we have special travel agreements with them.

Was probably a good thing as it give us leeaway on some of the scarier aspects of the biometrics rules.

DrIndy

The UK and ireland have an agreement that you do not need a passport to travel. To go to the rest of the EU and EEA, you need to prove you are a european citizen.

In ireland, the only way is with a passport. In the rest of Europe, you can get a credit card sized official ID which serves as the backpage of the passport (which is all they want anyway) and so you do not need another passport.

They should bring that in. Passports are very clunky and its annoying if you travel frequently.

Lump

Take about mis-information. You can fly anywhere in europe without a passport. If you are collecting your tickets from the airport (Ala Ryanair, and now Aerlingus AFAIK) You need a form of identification, Passport or Drivers license, even a provisional if you are lucky.

The guys checking on the way back into Ireland are checking none european's.

It's be an idea to bring some for of id.... but drivers license will be fine. If you're unsure.... Shock Horror! Ring the German embassy/passport office

John

gimmick

Lump wrote:

Take about mis-information. You can fly anywhere in europe without a passport.

Well obviously not, as was proven in Cork airport the other morning.

Tuesday_Girl

"The guys checking on the way back into Ireland are checking none european's."

So how do you prove you are European if you don't carry a passport?

I have never been able to get into Ireland without showing my passport.

GerardKeating

jor el wrote:

There is free travel within the EU for all EU citizens, you don't need a visa and there's no customs. However, you still need to prove you are an EU citizen and the only way to do this is with a passport. I could be wrong on the reasoning here but anyway, you still need the passport.

Not exactly correct, there is free travel within those EU countries that signed the Schengen Treaty, only a national identify card is required to prove one is a citizen of one of these counntries.

Ireland did not sign the Schengen Treaty. The UK would not signed either, and if we signed without the UK, we could gain th common travel area with the Schengen countries, but loss the one with the UK.

Benedict XVI

Lump wrote:

Take about mis-information. You can fly anywhere in europe without a passport. If you are collecting your tickets from the airport (Ala Ryanair, and now Aerlingus AFAIK) You need a form of identification, Passport or Drivers license, even a provisional if you are lucky.

The guys checking on the way back into Ireland are checking none european's.

It's be an idea to bring some for of id.... but drivers license will be fine. If you're unsure.... Shock Horror! Ring the German embassy/passport office

John

Ok that is the greatest load of mis-information I have ever read on Boards.

I just drove from Galway to Kerry airport this morning to give my GF (who was going to Lansarote (sp)) her passport that she forgot. She was not going to be let on the plane without it no matter how many types of ID she had !!!

If traveling from Ireland to any country in the World other the the UK YOU NEED TO HAVE A PASSPORT !!!!!
Could it be clearer.

BuffyBot

Take about mis-information. You can fly anywhere in europe without a passport

So those nice people at Schiphol would have let me through Passport Control with just a smile? Damn..and to think I lugged that pesky passport with me!

axer

http://europa.eu.int/abc/travel/doc/index_en.htm
Thanks. mods plz close.

dondonjordan

Provision licences are worth nothing in other eropean countries.
Drvers licences are only accepted if they are European ones.
Ireland does not have Identity cards like everywhere else in Europe. In holland you have to carry ID at all times or you get a fine.
I think this is a good idea. This way you cannot give a false name to the guards and there wouldn't be so many people getting away with crime. Also if you were to have an accident or get attacked the emergency services know who you are and the can contact your loved ones.

embraer170

Time to start asking ourselves why we don't have a national ID. We've managed to create the Garda ID, why not one step further.

rob1891

In terms of travel, a national identiy card would not help us in any way.

The Schengen countrys have their agreement because of their large unpolice-able borders. The have homoginized immigration controls through various common regulations, such as the requirement to carry identification, registering of address and other measures such has sharing of data. In order to enter the Schengen agreement and have the benefits of borderless travel we would first have to give up our right to control the few entry and exit points (airports, sea ports) we have to police and then take up the various (less effective) measures the rest of europe has in place. And we'd need to get the UK to do it at the same time (not going to happen), or start border control between us and N.I. !!!

An ID card alone would make no difference to the fact that we need a passport to enter the Schengen zone unless the ID card was made as powerful as the passport, and hence as valuable. This is already the problem with having to carry a passport!

Once inside the Schengen zone an ID without such powers would only mean that you wouldnt break the law when you leave your passport at the hotel desk. To be honest I've never consider carrying my passport about with me just because of the local 'customs', I guess that's arrogant :P Come to think of it, I spent 3 months in voilation of such a law and the only person who cared was the door lady on my apartment!. An ID card would be an expensive comfort in this senario.

So, imo, as far as travel goes, a national ID card would be utterly useless. Don't know whether I'd want/not want one for other reasons, but this is the travel forum so I'll leave that for another day!

embraer170

On the contrary, a national ID card would be very handy.
Swiss, French, Germans etc. can get into Ireland, other non-Schengen nations and even non-EU European countries with their ID card only.

axer

embraer170 wrote:

Swiss, French, Germans etc. can get into Ireland, ok EU non-Schengen nations and even non-EU European countries with their ID card only.

Thats true. The girlfriend is german and does not even own a passport. She has no problems comming into ireland or elsewhere in eu without a passport, thats why i thought it was ok for me too.

I think the Garda ID is a bit of a waste of time. I cant remember the last time I used it. It would have been better to release a more powerful National ID card as that would do the job of the Garda ID aswell.

rob1891

embraer170 wrote:

On the contrary, a national ID card would be very handy.
Swiss, French, Germans etc. can get into Ireland, ok EU non-Schengen nations and even non-EU European countries with their ID card only.

Italy has national ID cards but they are required to carry a passport (I think!) when entering Ireland. So having the card doesn't mean you can use it in place of your passport.

That said, I am still wrong. Had a look around and many Schengen countries will allow long lists of non Schengen citizens to enter with only a national ID card. So I assume they'd let us in if we brought in a modern ID card.

dondonjordan

I am half Italian and half Irish. I hold an Irish passport because I've lived most of my life there and when I was old enough to get an Italian identity card I couldn't because you have to get it from the town hall of where you reside in Italy so I got the Irish passport to travel there.
On the other hand my sister lived most of her life in Italy and now lives in Holland and has Italian ID. She is 23 and has been traveling to Ireland every year for the last 8 years.
She has never been asked for a passport.