Do you look at ogrish?

Repli

I'm not trying to pimp the site or anything, but just wondering what you guys think of it?

Most of the pictures are just sick, showing dead bodies etc, but I find the al sunnar army quite interesting and it's the only website I know of that gives up to date information about whats really going on in the middle east.. (apart from indymedia, which focuses mainly on issues in Ireland) the hostage taking of contractors/soldiers/etc in Iraq.. Sky News don't report ANY of this stuff that's going on at the moment..

I know the website becomes very popular when something like Nick Berg, Ken Bigley or Margaret Hassan happens, Anyway I never look at any of the sick stuff, and I wish they didn't show it - but that's just the way the website is..

AARRRGH

I look at it sometimes. But I don't find it entertaining...

No graphic images, but like google or anything else on the internet, lots of links to adult material!! on the other hand...

ferdi

some fairly sick **** on there, do i really need to subject myself to it?

dance with the devil, the devil dont change.....the devil changes you etc

Caesar_Bojangle

You better remove the link or you'll probably get a ban, dude.

Repli

Me? ferdi I don't see it like that - basically some people like to know more about the world they live in than Sky News reports will tell you

ferdi

that website has nothing to do with informing people, its all about gore and shock factor. I know that seriously ****ed up stuff is going on in iraq and elsewhere and i'm so so glad i dont have to live through it. I dont need to see it to know its going on. All it achieves is a desensitising of my mind and a coarsening of my soul.

Moriarty

What specifically are you talking about? Each of those hostage takings have been reported on sky news and the BBC. The BBC run updates on what's happening in Iraq every day, you'd need to be blind to miss it.

Ogrish is about one thing, and one thing only. Hosting pictures of dead bodies in various states of destruction. It's not a news service.

Repli

Moriarty wrote:

What specifically are you talking about? Each of those hostage takings have been reported on sky news and the BBC. The BBC run updates on what's happening in Iraq every day, you'd need to be blind to miss it.

Ogrish is about one thing, and one thing only. Hosting pictures of dead bodies in various states of destruction. It's not a news service.

I'm not going to link directly to ogrish.com
But there's a piece on it about the Japanese man who worked for a British security company, and pictures of him being held hostage..

Here is the sky news report
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13345710,00.html

It's nothing, not even a main headline, just an extra bit of information BELOW some other article which is almost completely unrelated to the main article

Repli

Ogrish.com article

May 09, 2005

Japanese Contractor, Akihiko Saito, Taken Hostage by Ansar Al Sunnah Army

Islamic militant group Army of Ansar al-Sunna said on Monday it had abducted a Japanese national working at a U.S. base in Iraq, according to a statement posted on the Internet.

The group posted on its Web site a picture of a Japanese passport bearing the name Akihiko Saito as well as an identification card saying he was a security manager.

The group said it seized him after it ambushed a convoy of cars coming from the U.S. base near the capital Baghdad when the convoy neared the town of Hit in Iraq's Sunni Muslim western region.

"He (the hostage) has serious injuries and we will soon issue a video showing him," said the statement posted on a Web site used by Islamists.

The statement's authenticity could not be verified immediately. There was no independent confirmation.

A Japanese Foreign Ministry official in Tokyo said the government was looking into the report

The militant group said there had been 12 Iraqi "apostates" and five armed foreigners travelling in the convoy.

"The mujahideen (holy fighters) captured them and killed them immediately with the exception of one and he is Japanese."

The organisation, one of the main Sunni Muslim insurgent groups, has claimed responsibility for attacks against U.S. forces and the Iraqi government and killed several hostages.

Sky news article

One of Iraq's most feared insurgent groups, the Army of Ansar al-Sunna, said in an Internet statement it had ambushed a

foreign security convoy near a US base in western Iraq and captured a Japanese citizen who worked for a British security firm.

A picture of the man's passport posted on the Internet gave his name as Akihiko Saito, aged 44.

Lexmark.Printer

Do you look at Ogrish?

Checking it out now!

Moriarty

.. right, but go look on news.bbc.co.uk and you find this article on it, which is as good if not better than the ogrish one.

No one news outlet will make detailed reports on every item of news. Shop around if you're intrested in a story. You're saying that 'established' news organisations aren't really covering the storys, when they plainly are. You're just too lazy to go find them. Not that they're even hard to find. Two clicks off the news.bbc.co.uk front page got me to that story.

Repli

No I am not "too lazy" to find other websites. For example

From ogrish.com

Ansar Al Sunnah Army Executes 6 Workers From Sudan
According to a statement on an Islamic forum, the hostages worked for a Jordanian company and were considered as collaborators by the Iraqi terror group "Army of Ansar Al Sunnah"

Download execution video..

Can't find ANYTHING about that on bbc news site or sky news..
Ogrish is the only website I know of at the moment that gives unbiased information about the situation and events in the middle east, if you know of another please tell me and I will consider it

nesf

Sky News is noted for it's unbiased and authorative reports on matters now? :rolleyes:

Lexmark.Printer

Some shocking stuff there! :eek: BEWARE!!

and I don't think thats going to help me get to sleep!

pwd

no.
but I did look at one of the beheading videos, which may have been on it.
I doubt anyone would imagine the beheadings in the way they were executed in that video.
Distressing to the point of inducing nausea;
but also something adults should consider watching.

TerrorFirmer

I find it interesting from the view that it provides fascinating examples on how fragile the human body is, and how easily stuff can just basically happen to end it. I find it fascinating really tbh, not that I totally condone it but it IS interesting. I wonder what the real motives are of the people running the site?

What I despise, is people who watch the stuff just to be able so say "I saw a cool gory video on the internet". That mentality really sickens me.

Haven't looked at it in a long time however.

petes

jacking off to it now

zoro

MobileInfantry wrote:

I find it interesting from the view that it provides fascinating examples on how fragile the human body is, and how easily stuff can just basically happen to end it. I find it fascinating really tbh...

Exactly my feelings on it - everything from the execution videos to the train wrecks to the "dog ate my penis that I cut off by accident" pictures.

Some literally amazing pictures, videos and stories on the site - I for one would miss it if it were taken down forcefully (NEVER gonna happen)
It shows just how fragile (as you said) the human body can be in certain situations - it gives an amazing insight into the human body and it's limitations.

Plus - and this is probably the most important point of all - it's real life.
If you see a picture of a cow's carcass after being slaughtered/butchered for it's meat, do you think it's morally 'wrong' to be viewing it? OK, so maybe it' snot desirable content for your 6 year old son and his friends - but as a responsible and mature adult you have a right (and possibly an obligation ... that's arguable though) to know and understand the world around you.

I have yet to be disturbed by one of the images/videos on the site, but I've no doubt that it will eventually happen. I don't check it daily, or even weekly, I just look in from time to time - curiosity mostly.

TerrorFirmer

Just looked at it there, saw "Man crushed by granite block" picture series.

Again, while I look at it on a purely interest only basis in the fragility of human life, I know now why I stopped looking at it.

juno75

jacking off to it now

Dunno wether to laugh of puke :eek:

This is blocked at work but will check it out.
Our view of the world here is far to sanitised.

The 2nd and 3rd world have to deal with death in a much more close up and personal way on a much more regular basis than we do.

Im not saying this is a good situation but people in the west generally have a very 'clean' view of conflict and destruction. This is not good.
It makes it very easy to assume the way we kill and destroy is somehow 'better' or 'cleaner' than when the natives do it.

If you send an army in to sompleace you should bear witness to the concequences.

SKy news make me sick, '50 people died today in iraq, meanwhile the queen stubbed her toe.....' Something very Orwellian about them.

Or something like that. i cant get out what Im trying to say. Brain slow.