AMD's Dual cores wipe the floor?

Mutant_Fruit

Seems like the AMD's are pretty good, not wiping the floor completely unfortunately, but definately putting in a damn good show. However, at they're current price tag, they are definately NOT value for money.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410

Infini

I probably won't touch these things until they've dropped in price significantly.

magick

yup should be good proformance from them. however that means 2 cpus, 2 heat sinks , and with some sli boards 2 graphics cards! and if you interested in watercooling the cost involved will be crazy, very expensive that "only the 5 richest kings in europe will be able to afford them"

though will this mean ppl will hold back on single cores? and go for the duel core instead?

pred racer

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

Seems like the AMD's are pretty good, not wiping the floor completely unfortunately, but definately putting in a damn good show. However, at they're current price tag, they are definately NOT value for money.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410

Id Have to agree
read this earlier
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/09/review_amd_athlon_x2/

halenger

magick wrote:

yup should be good proformance from them. however that means 2 cpus, 2 heat sinks , and with some sli boards 2 graphics cards! and if you interested in watercooling the cost involved will be crazy, very expensive that "only the 5 richest kings in europe will be able to afford them"

though will this mean ppl will hold back on single cores? and go for the duel core instead?

Dual core does not mean "2 cpus, 2 heat sinks". It is as its name indicates... Two cores, on one processor.

2 dual core processors now... That's slightly different. 4 cores in the box. I'd hope one would have a full fridge case for that setup.

uberpixie

Heat and power usuage for the amd dual cores are pretty good.

The intel ones run much hotter and draw way more power.

Seems amd has the better dual core design this round.

The next intel dual core will be a new design. Be interesting how it turns out.

ai ing

AMD have said that their current dual core processors are not better for gaming than their current single cores. It will be a while yet before they are worth getting

pred racer

Yeah dual core is limited for gaming until the apps start using hyper threading to allow each core to do half the work. but what it does mean is that u can play a game while ripping an mp3 or dvd in the backround with no loss of performance.

Mutant_Fruit

however that means 2 cpus, 2 heat sinks

If you read the review, you'd have noticed that the Dual core AMD processors use less power than the single core AMD processors. So if you're happy with how the FX-55 performs heatwise, you'll be delighted to find out that the dual cores are cooler! And both the single and dual cores use a lot less than those prescotts!

For gaming, the dualcores were surprisingly good. The difference between the top range dual core and single core is only 200mhz, so there is minimal performance hit. The difference between toprange dualcore and single core for Intel is about 800mhz, and so they suffer a much bigger hit to gaming performance.

The gaming benthmarks still show AMD wiping the table with intel. If it weren't for the pricetag, i'd definately get one for my next computer, whenever that might be.

uberpixie

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

If you read the review, you'd have noticed that the Dual core AMD processors use less power than the single core AMD processors. So if you're happy with how the FX-55 performs heatwise, you'll be delighted to find out that the dual cores are cooler! And both the single and dual cores use a lot less than those prescotts!

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050509/cual_core_athlon-19.html

power consumption

Amd 64 x2 4800 + at full tilt:185 watts

Amd 64 4000+ at full tilt:194 watts

intel p4 660(3.6ghz) at full tilt:287 watts :eek:

intel p4 d 840(3.2ghz) at full tilt:315 watts :eek:

What are intel at?

MrFitt

Hi All this is my 1st Post! Hurrah!
Anyway I know for a facta that Dell will be releasing Dual Core Intels (Extreme Editions) this June and that there is a road plan by Intel for QUADcore!! Yep thats right- 4 core on 1 CPU!- 1 for your e-mail, 1 for notepad, 1 for NAV and 1 for playing Tetris on:- lol

I am in the fortunate postion to be able to acquire and test one of these babys so I will keep ye posted.

I have the specs but cant release to general public cos of Non disclosure agreements and sh1t like that bah!! Plus I know a lot of Dell heads reside here on the boards- so I could get into real trouble.


Later Dudes...




MrFitt

WizZard

Jammy git!!!

Mutant_Fruit

MrFitt wrote:

Hi All this is my 1st Post! Hurrah!
Anyway I know for a facta that Dell will be releasing Dual Core Intels (Extreme Editions) this June and that there is a road plan by Intel for QUADcore!! Yep thats right- 4 core on 1 CPU!- 1 for your e-mail, 1 for notepad, 1 for NAV and 1 for playing Tetris on:- lol

I am in the fortunate postion to be able to acquire and test one of these babys so I will keep ye posted.

I have the specs but cant release to general public cos of Non disclosure agreements and sh1t like that bah!! Plus I know a lot of Dell heads reside here on the boards- so I could get into real trouble.


Later Dudes...




MrFitt

Roflmao. Quadcore my ass. It'll be dualcore for quite a long time i think. As for trying a quadcore now, thats a load of bull. They've just managed to get the dualcores out, i wouldn't think quadcores are beyond the design phase yet. And definately not for testing. I'd give it a minimum of 2 years til quadcores come out. Absolute minimum.

As for dell releasing dualcore machines, i'd agree with that. Intel are pushing to get dualcores out into mainstream, hence the extremely competitive pricing of their chips.

astrofool

he may mean the dual cores with hyperthreading enabled (shows up as 4).

And both companies have multicore plans in the longterm, Intel needs a hypertransport type link for its chips to keep competitive as more cpu's are needed however.

Stark

He was just joking

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MrPinK

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

Roflmao. Quadcore my ass. It'll be dualcore for quite a long time i think

The soon to be unveiled Xbox 360 is widely believed to have a tri-core PowerPC chip. I doubt AMD and Intel will be resting on dual-core for too long.

jessy

Considering the cell has 10 cores, there still a bit behind.

OfflerCrocGod

MrPinK wrote:

The soon to be unveiled Xbox 360 is widely believed to have a tri-core PowerPC chip. I doubt AMD and Intel will be resting on dual-core for too long.

Yes but that's a specialised chip and not really a normal all-round general CPU (that's why it has such a high clock compared to the G5s that Apple ships - 3.2Ghz). I wouldn't compare it to a normal AMD or Intel chip - just like I wouldn't compare a Cell processor to them either. Totally different beasts.

Mac daddy

jessy wrote:

Considering the cell has 10 cores, there still a bit behind.

Yes but these are only planned for some of High availability Ibm servers and maybe high end workstations still uncomfirmed though and of course the new playstation.

But yes your right dual core's are lagging behind the cell would be interesting to see some benchie's of these two.

astrofool

Well, all of the core's of the cell are quite simplistic, bar the master core (a powerpc core), so really all they've done is put lots of simple chips in one package. The transistor count is about on par with the p4's and athlon 64's, it just utilises them very differently.