Midichlorians

JCDenton

After reading this VERY spoiler filled review I'm all excited about seeing this film now.
But it put me onto a train of thought spanning back to Episode 1.

Why does the film make the point of telling us that Anakin has the highest midichlorian count of any Jedi ever?
I mean, how does it relate to anything? Surely the entire saga could still take place if he was a normal guy? It doesn't make him any more special than anyone else; it just seems to me to be an unnessecary addition to the "story"

Any (serious) ideas?

jaggeh

they wanted something visual and equatable to show that yes he was in fact the most powerful being they had ever seen. otherwise midichlorians wouldnt have made an appearance.

JCDenton

Why though?

Couldn't they just say one of the typical cheesy lines like "Hmmmm, the force is very strong with him; I can sense it" Or something like that

Or they could just have him float around buildings with the power of his mind.

Like I said; I still can't see the need for an introduction of this to complicate things

Roar

yeah i agree JC, complete and utter tripe so it was. made no sense at all, but then again most of that film didnt..

meditraitor

Cant wait now........

slave1

why the mention of midichlorians?

to demonstrate he's an engineered child - sideous, maybe
to lead onto his power and the linkage to disappearing jedi, maybe

sw revolves around ANH, OB1
"if you strike me down......."
vader never killed OB1, OB1 disappeared

search the web on disappearing jedi, too much to repeat here

Pigman II

Unless this subject is cleared up in Ep3 I hope GL will find it in his black little heart to eliminate any mention of this subject from inevitable future 'Special Editions' of the prequel triology

IMHO, it's enough to say that Anakin is the most powerful and just leave it at that. SW doesn't need to be delving into quasi-scientific nonsene ... especially if it doesn't even follow thru on the notions.

][cEMAN**

It's easy to say that he's the most powerful. But so what?

The midichlorians were supposed to be a 'sign' that he was the chosen one. The one to bring balance to the force. It was a misinterpreted sign by some jedis.

In reality, he's not the one to bring balance to the force. Leia is afaik. But then she's the daughter of Anakin, so they weren't far wrong.

Besides, if they were going to just say "He's the most powerful" why not just say his father died. Why the whole virgin birth? It's all meant to be about the lore of the jedi universe. Unfulfilled and misinterpreted prophecies.

Pigman II

What I'm talking about is writing a purely entertaining script for a film without getting bogged down with technicalities and explanations that a majority of viewers don't actually care about or don't need to know.

If they could get thru ep4-6 only vaguely talking about 'the force' as being a power that some characters have in varying amounts then clearly is no need to delve any deeper into the subject to convey a message. Hence debates over 'the prophecy' or Qui Gonn calling someone 'the chosen one' or even 'virgin births' can all still be kept in without us the viewers having to know that a Jedi's strength is determined by little microscopic bugs floating around in our blood.

To see what I mean one could have a scene in ep6 where Luke explains to Leia how he constructed a lightsabre or perhaps a scene in Ep4 where HanSolo explains in detail the nuances of interstellar flight. It's all well and good for the viewer to know these things if they're interested in those kind of details but to progress the story along ITS JUST NOT IMPORTANT, and as such should be left on the cutting room floor.

Forget JarJar and embarrassing ep2 dialogue, this point imho is one of the major letdowns of the prequel trilogy. Everything has to be overexamined and overexposed. There's barely and sense of fantasy or wonder in it anymore.

Johnny Storm

Personally I kind of liked the "midichlorian" idea as it was one of the few (only?) actual science-fictional elements in Ep 1.
I hope they do make some use of them in Ep 3.

youcancallmeal

'midichlorians' were not just introduced in the phantom menace. They have long been an essential part of the star wars universe which includes books, comics, games whose storylines are authorized by George Lucas to coincide with the movies storyline. A lot of the things that you may find confusing or non-sensical in the movies are actually very interesting to those that have taken an interest in the expanded star wars universe. For an exlanation on midichlorians see here .
At the end of the day the films arent designed and written to be confusing to someone who sits down to watch them without ever even having heard of them. Just an open mind will do, it is supposed to be science-fiction/fantasy anyway.

Pigman II

Btw, just in case anyone has taken me up wrongly, I'm not writing this as a casual movie goer. I am a a big SW fan (both of films and EU). I still feel that it would have been better if the prequels had stayed truer to the mythical/fantasy origins of the OT and stayed clear of this subject. I'm glad some people here enjoyed the mention of midi's in the film but I for one could have done without it and feel they could have told exactly the same story without delving into this topic.

Crucifix

' wrote:

[cEMAN**']In reality, he's not the one to bring balance to the force.

I always thought he was (via killing the emporer in ROTJ).

Seed

But he did bring balance. Think about it. The Jedi are pretty much reigning supreme for like a thousand years. Then he comes along and well, the dark side ruleth once again.

JCDenton

Johnny Storm wrote:

Personally I kind of liked the "midichlorian" idea as it was one of the few (only?) actual science-fictional elements in Ep 1.
I hope they do make some use of them in Ep 3.

Has anyone else heard the "rumour" that palpatine was somehow involved in anakins "virgin birth"?

Apparently it's alluded to during the course of Episode 3...

(Or was I just imagining this?)

Darth Brawl

Whover said anakin wasnt the one to bring balance to the force was wrong ,he does, he kills the emperor. midicholerns are hugely important, its like the imaculate conception, anakin was born of the force, midicholerns are in a way the force they are in almost everything ,and the controllin them iand using them is essential in the force

deegs

JCDenton wrote:

After reading this VERY spoiler filled review I'm all excited about seeing this film now.
But it put me onto a train of thought spanning back to Episode 1.

Why does the film make the point of telling us that Anakin has the highest midichlorian count of any Jedi ever?
I mean, how does it relate to anything? Surely the entire saga could still take place if he was a normal guy? It doesn't make him any more special than anyone else; it just seems to me to be an unnessecary addition to the "story"

Any (serious) ideas?

only reason....

cos ob1 said not even yado had them that high!

-oRnein9-

Darth Brawl wrote:

Whover said anakin wasnt the one to bring balance to the force was wrong ,he does, he kills the emperor. midicholerns are hugely important, its like the imaculate conception, anakin was born of the force, midicholerns are in a way the force they are in almost everything ,and the controllin them iand using them is essential in the force

speak the truth he does