Jack B. Yeats Painting

Larianne

Anyone know approximately how much a Jack B. Yeats sketch would be worth? And do they sell much at auction? Thanks.

smileygal

I'd imagine it's worth a fortune!!Anything by him tends to be snapped up. You could ask the National Gallery and/ or Google it.
Might be worth even more in the future.

Larianne

Well it's not a painting, its an ink sketch ,i think. My granny won it in a raffle years and years ago! Only found out about it a few years back. i think I'll be keeping it for awhile. Jack B. Yeats is one of my favorite artists. Its more for insurance purposes.

smileygal

Lucky you! And even better that you like it! Definitely worth insuring. Might even be worth more than a pencil sketch. Presumably the signature is obvious?
What does it depict?That could also affect the price too.

I would contact Sotheby's and Christy's & ask about getting an insurance quote. I think you have to pay for it, but it would be worth it, as they are top dog when it comes to big name auctioneers.
Also
http://www.whytes.ie/
Put in 'yeats'into search box on the page and check out Lot 61!!

and
http://www.deveresart.com/

I would also make sure you house it very well, either professionally framed by a very reputable framers (ask National Gallery to recommend) or if keeping out of sight, in a waterproof lockable box at least, a safe at best!! Don't know its size but a small safe can be bought at a very reasonable price. Burglaries seem to be on the up.

Of utmost importance is to photograph it if you haven't already -
1.so you have a record of it if it ever stolen
2.to send/show to valuers, so you don't have to carry it around

Provenance is very important, so even just making a note of how your Gran got it , the date and where, to accompany it, is a valuable exercise.
And just out of interest:
http://www.huntmuseum.com/framesets_exhibitions/yeats2004/

http://www.colonsay.org.uk/lochar/yeats.html

Blackjack

Lucky You!!.
I know that Michael Smurfit used to collect Yeats paintings (he used to keep a lot of them in a very nice room in the K Club). The National Gallery have (or at least did last time I was there) a collection on permanent view there.
You may decide to lend it to them if you decide not to sell. Not sure what the implications of doing that are, but you can bet it would be kept reasonably securely. They may not consider putting it on public view, but you never know. Letting other people see it would be a really decent thing to do.





I'm a Yeats fan, by the way. My Wallpaper is actually "Men of Destiny".

Larianne

Thanks for all your advice. Just had a look at it there (my mam keeps it at the back of her wardrobe,I'll be changing that). It's quite big, 30 by something I would say.. It's already framed, I think my grandmother got it that way. She's dead so I'll have to ask my mother about how exactly she got it and where.

It's definately Yeats. Same style, just trying to find a painting/sketch like it on the net to compare. It looks like he used pen then went over it with black ink and he has used colour as well, like a 'wash'. His signature is on the bottom left hand corner. But to be honest, it looks like it was a quick bit of work. But I still like it.

I dunno what it depicts. Looks like some sort of race,with people gathered watching.

It's just great being able to look up close to it and seeing the little strokes of colour. Ya can't do that in the gallery. I have often gone in to the Gallery and head straight to his work. I love it.

It's mad having a piece of work by someone so famous!! I'll keep ya posted on whether it's actually worth anything and it is indeed Yeats!!

Larianne

Okay, here's a link to pictures which have the same style as the one I've got, especially the last one, 'The Shanachie'.

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://pybertra.free.fr/eire/bonfire1.gif&imgrefurl=http://pybertra.free.fr/eire/jbyeats2.htm&h=500&w=352&sz=66&tbnid=eHZmWpL0U3EJ:&tbnh=126&tbnw=89&hl=en&start=28&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJack%252BB%252BYeats%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

(hope that link works!)

RaiseTheBlinds

dont bring it to london,.... Ireland is the place for the Irish art,....
you wouldnt go to new york with an english painting !!

christies and sothebys have helped strip Ireland of its art and culture, with thier big money reputations and sterling ! its not their fault , they are a business after all, but irish people are the ultimate buyers of irish art naturally ! irish art is protected and the government dont want to see our country loosing valuable art, they may require permits @ customs.

this isnt the place for a valuation on a yeats , bring it to a prominent Dublin auction-house for a free verbal valuation. . they'll only be too glad to see a yeats come in their front door ! roughly expect an auction estimate of somewhere between 15 - 50,000 for a yeats ink sketch (signed).
pretty wide estimate, but the quality, size, condition, subject, and provinence are the determining factors.

beware also of Cula-press prints of yeats work which are hand-coloured prints fetching up to just E2000.

luckat

Perhaps if you contact Aidan Dunne, the art critic of the Irish Times, he might be able to give you a steer on who could value it for you? You want a reputable, honest valuer.

There's probably a ... what's it called - catalogue raisonnee? - for Jack Yeats's work where you should register your drawing when it's catalogued by a Yeats expert. But make sure you ask the ownership to be published as "in private ownership", so you're not haunted by people trying to buy it - or by less savoury characters.

Incidentally, I fell in love with a tiny Jack Yeats picture of reeds in the window of a Dublin gallery many years ago. I'd go and lean against the wall and gaze at it for five minutes or so every time I passed, taking a cool drink of its loveliness. Then after Christmas that year I rushed back and it was gone.

I hesitated and then went in and asked how much it had sold for. It was exactly the price I'd paid for my house.

Guitarplayinman

Hi All , I have an oil painting given to me about 10 years ago, It is Men of Destiny by jack B Yeats, Im not sure what the story is with it but when I was given it I was told it was worth a lot, I know the national gallery have the original but im trying to find out more about mine, Any Ideas ,Please let me know.

Wild_Dogger

Can you post an image !

Guitarplayinman

Here is a link to some pics I took of the painting
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31568371@N02/4493384446/in/photostream/

Wild_Dogger

Well, its a reproduction of the original .
Which means that it is almost certainly a canvas printed with an image in oils , and then heavily glossed over to give the appearance of a real painting .

Its hard to say for sure , but its likely to be a coloured "oileograph" . A lithograph on canvas .

Still has some value , like couple of hundred euro I'd imagine .

If you get the chance , bring it to any of the auction houses for double-checking !

Guitarplayinman

ok will do, thanks for the info.

hlane

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Owen

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Guitarplayinman

I have put it up here http://adverts.ie/268146 if anyone is interested.

Judgement Day

It is pretty horrible looking but I bet the original is worth a fortune. One for looking at in a dark room with no lighting. Good luck with the sale!

Guitarplayinman

:DWell Im glad to say I didnt paint it, I just own it.:D

loulous1977

I know am alot late with this but just came across this thread, Do you guys Know if Jack B Yeats "Fair Day" cuala press print is of any value???

Judgement Day

loulous1977 wrote: »

I know am alot late with this but just came across this thread, Do you guys Know if Jack B Yeats "Fair Day" cuala press print is of any value???

Is it anything like this? http://www.whytes.ie/4ImageDisplay.asp?AUCTION=20110530&IMAGE=043 If it is, why not bring it into Whyte's and get them to have a look at it for you.

Whyte's Irish Art
Auctioneers & Valuers
38 Molesworth Street Dublin 2 Ireland
Tel: +353 (0)1 676 2888 Fax:+353 (0)1 676 2880
info@whytes.ie

www.whytes.com
www.whytes.eu

loulous1977

thank you its a tad far from me but if am up that way ill call in surely

Judgement Day

loulous1977 wrote: »

thank you its a tad far from me but if am up that way ill call in surely

What county are you in and I'll PM you some nearby salerooms?

hlane

I collect them, it depends on how early the print is and if it is hand coloured, condition is important also.
If you send me an image i will tell you what it is likely to make at auction and what i would offer for it.

loulous1977

Im from sligo in Ireland. Hlane I have it up on adverts.ie

Judgement Day

No auctioneer in your area anyway. You should edit your post to link directly to your advert on Adverts.ie

loulous1977

lol nd how do i do that??? am new to this stuff..

loulous1977

http://www.adverts.ie/718640

loulous1977

oh am so excited im learning, but there alot of rules on this i hope I ain't breaking any, im ashamed to say im 34 and still only learning technology!!!

hlane

It looks like a reproduction from the photo but its hard to tell without seeing it.
You have had this up on ebay before, right?
Did that not give you an idea of value?

hlane

You pmed me to say your boyfriend got it in a Yeats house clearance??
Which Yeats house?

loulous1977

It was an auction from "house clearance". He got it years ago at the auction but only came across it when clearing out our own house. He has no interest in it what so ever but I just thought Id look it up.

loulous1977

Hlane it was from ann yeats house in Dalky

Morlar

Thought people might be interested to know a Jack B.Yeats original has come to the market with a reserve of €60,000.00 I'd guesstimate it will hit a high multiple of that.

http://whytes.ie/

http://www.whytes.com/AuctionPDFs/20111010.pdf


32
Jack Butler Yeats RHA (1871-1957)
RESCUE MEN, 1949
signed lower right; inscribed with title on reverse; also with typed label on reverse [“It is the wish of Mr. Jack
B.Yeats that this painting shall be always kept under glass.”]
oil on board
24 by 37cm., 9.5 by 14.5in.
Provenance:
VictorWaddington Gallery,Dublin, 1949;
Where purchased by the present owner’s family;
Thence by descent
Literature:
Pyle, Hilary, Jack B.Yeats: A Catalogue Raisonné of the Oil Paintings,Vol. II, p.885, catalogue no. 979 (as The
Rescue Boat)
Contained in original Victor Waddington frame.
Rescue Men depicts a group of men rowing in open water. The unusual viewpoint from inside the stern of the boat brings the
viewer into the centre of the action. Looking across the bowed head and shoulders of the helmsman, the foreshortened
composition centres on the dramatic figures of two oarsmen. On the right is the form of a large man, his body bent outwards
as he heaves the oar through the water. Behind him to the left is a second figure whose head and shoulders are pushed
backwards. The poses of the two sailors through the counter motions of their bodies suggest the movement of the boat
through the heaving waves. Between the oarsmen the white prow of the vessel is visible. Its high position indicates the stormy
nature of the sea and adds to the image of the pitching motion of travelling through the swell. The dark swirling clouds of blue
in the sky further convey the idea of the tempestuous conditions in which the scene takes place and the inherent danger of
the event.
Hilary Pyle has noted that Yeats treated the same subject of the rescue boat, albeit from a different viewpoint, in an illustration
for A Broadside, in July 1914.1 In this version the helmsman holds a lantern over the side of the boat to guide the rowers in their
rescue search. In Rescue Men he looks downwards, while the oarsmen have their backs to the horizon. It is the viewer who sees
what lies ahead – a black horizon line and a stormy sea. As in so many of Yeats’ later paintings the work can be read as a
metaphor for life. It looks back to the excitement of Yeats’ childhood around ships and boats in Sligo but it also refers to the
ongoing struggles of adult life. The men in the boat are heroic figures. Unconscious of the risks they take, they concentrate on
the task ahead. But created out of an intricate web of impasto paint, the figures, despite their strong physicality, appear almost
ethereal with the sea and sky clearly visible through their bodies. The flecks of orange and the pinkish tones on the sailors
indicate the presence of evening sunlight and introduce an element of warmth into the otherwise cool tonality of the white,
blue and green. Through its inventive use of colour and form and its dramatic subject, the painting leads one’s imagination and
powers of perception in unanticipated directions. Its deceptive simplicity is characteristic of Yeats’work which seeks to awaken
the viewer’s curiosity and draw it into the world of the painting.
Dr. Róisín Kennedy
Dublin, September 2011
€60,000-€80,000 (£51,600-£68,800 approx.)

Wild_Dogger

Adams have a real cracker in their sale :

http://www.adams.ie/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=3101&LotRef=50

Judgement Day

Not as bad as some of his later daubs but I wouldn't give it wall space all the same. I recently came across the following which accounts for the awful rubbish he turned out in later years - I thought it must have been his eyesight.

'Yeats worked mostly in oils from about 1905; he used subdued colours with strong tonal contrasts to achieve dramatic effects. He applied the paint in broad flat strokes, his linear drawing-style showing through. By 1925, Yeats’ painting technique had significantly changed to an impasto style with vigorous brush marks and a brighter palette. From the 1940, line almost disappears from his work. In late works such as Grief, 1951, Men of Destiny, 1946 and Returning From the Bathe, Mid-Day, 1948, solidity is defined by strong directional slashes of the palette knife, the characters emerge from the surface in ripples of light. He was painting from memory, seeking to recapture the emotion of the event. Following the death of his wife in 1947 his work became even more expressive and experimental in theme. He expressed nostalgia for simpler times and used bright, optimistic colours. He painted with his fingers, with a palette knife, using paint directly from the tube in a sort of
controlled passion.'

Wild_Dogger

HAha !! thats funny J-Day .
Straight from the tube in a controlled passion ! hmmmmmm

There's no comparison to his early works . His early works and especially his watercolours are really fantastic .
Wouldnt be a fan of his later works at all , and I think Adams have one right in the middle of his career .

You can see his style evolving here , from his technical side to his 'expressionism' .

I could live with this one

loulous1977

I have had this print up for sale for ages, 2 sales never reached the reserve price and am awaiting payment from a winning bid recently, I wonder is it of any worth at all

Morlar

The Adams one just sold for 1million

http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/yeats-painting-sells-for-1m-522400.html

Have got to say I'd much prefer the Whytes one.

Step Inn Poker

My wifes mother has a couple of original Jack B Yeats in her house.

They are listed on the last valuations as:

'Jack Yeats Oil on Board 2 women on street, one with child in arms'.

'Jack Yeats charcoal drawing'.
with a letter from the artist to my wife's grandfather.

'Jack Yeats Cuala print West of Ireland Cottages'.

Should they have them revalued in light of the latest sale and consider having them put into safe keeping as my wife's mother is elderly and frail.

Morlar

Step Inn Poker wrote: »

My wifes mother has a couple of original Jack B Yeats in her house.

They are listed on the last valuations as:

'Jack Yeats Oil on Board 2 women on street, one with child in arms'.

'Jack Yeats charcoal drawing'.
with a letter from the artist to my wife's grandfather.

'Jack Yeats Cuala print West of Ireland Cottages'.

Should they have them revalued in light of the latest sale and consider having them put into safe keeping as my wife's mother is elderly and frail.

I don't own any but if I did I'd get them valued and insured at the latest market rates. There are Irish based specialist high end art insurers (as advertised in the Whytes art catalogue) who may be worth getting in touch with.