Yet another "Your fave <insert>"

Q_Elexra

Something that has really made the later FF's that little bit special have been the Summons/Aeons/Guardian Forces whatever you want to call them. But which do you think were the best?

One of my faves has to be Odin in Final Fantasy VII, he seemed a little off in the following games but he was a must-have in VII.

Shiva in Final Fantasy X was the only incarnation of that classic character that I liked. She was cooler (no pun intended) and looked alot better.

Carbuncle in Final Fantasy VIII was another of my faves. Got me out of trouble sooooo many times.

Leviathen in Final Fantasy IX (it think it was) was excellent, though my mate doesn't think so.

There are a few others but I'll not get into them now

Retr0gamer

I always liked the bahamut summons. Lots of over the top explosions. I remember when I had got FFVII first and every time I got a new summon calling my brother over to have a look at it.

I hated all the FFVIII summons. If you didn't abuse the draw system you had to use them constantly and their over long animations annoyed me. If you used the draw system correctly they were absolutely useless since the main characters could dish out far more damage.

The best use of summons was FFX. I love the way it completely changed the method and flow of battle.

grimloch

i liked the way you could control your aeons in X, i felt that was a nice touch

knights of the round were good in VII and odin was good in IX, i disliked any form of summoning in the ones before VII

i disliked the junctioning in VIII because it made the game so easy it was a joke

Matthewthebig

Retr0gamer wrote:

I always liked the bahamut summons. Lots of over the top explosions. I remember when I had got FFVII first and every time I got a new summon calling my brother over to have a look at it.

I hated all the FFVIII summons. If you didn't abuse the draw system you had to use them constantly and their over long animations annoyed me. If you used the draw system correctly they were absolutely useless since the main characters could dish out far more damage.

The best use of summons was FFX. I love the way it completely changed the method and flow of battle.

all you had to do was set the summons to short and everyting was shorter once you had seen the long first one

The Free Man

yea, bahamuts were the best.
you just cant beat a big stinkin laser from a dragons gob.

neo bahamut was my personal favourite

acri

Bahamut ZERO will always be the best. closely followed by Alexander of FFVIII. i think it was FFVIII anyway....couldve been X.

Retr0gamer

Matthewthebig wrote:

all you had to do was set the summons to short and everyting was shorter once you had seen the long first one

Except if you wanted to boost them to get extra damage. Anyway the short summon animation option was only available in FFIX and afterwards.

Ninja Turtle

I liked Diablo from FFVIII. Looked cool, and his no encounter ability made trying to finish the game on the lowest possible level a godsend. I liked yojimbo from X as well.

Engel

Shiva has always been one of my favs, ever since I stared playing, when I was a kid. Bahamut always gave out the most damage so he was also cool. But shiva just kicks everyones a***, and shes so pretty in x!

Q_Elexra

acri wrote:

Bahamut ZERO will always be the best. closely followed by Alexander of FFVIII. i think it was FFVIII anyway....couldve been X.

He's in VIII and IX. I think the cut scence in IX of Alexander is amazing. However I don't remember (though I missed one or two aeons) him in X.

Q_Elexra

grimloch wrote:

i liked the way you could control your aeons in X, i felt that was a nice touch

knights of the round were good in VII and odin was good in IX, i disliked any form of summoning in the ones before VII

i disliked the junctioning in VIII because it made the game so easy it was a joke

I always felt like I was cheating using Knights of the Round.

Infini

Q_Elexra wrote:

I always felt like I was cheating using Knights of the Round.

Ever use that with the mime materia to beat the crap out of emerald weapon?

grimloch

i know i certainly did, same with ruby too

if you have another way of beating emerald without a deal of hassle i wouldnt mind hearing it

Infini

grimloch wrote:

i know i certainly did, same with ruby too

How'd you defeat ruby? If you used knights of the round on him wouldn't he automatically retailiate with ultima?

grimloch

let me see, if i can cast my mind back,

unless im mistaken i did use it and i dont recall any ultima retaliation

that being said i could be wrong, im not sure now....ill get back to you on it

Infini

I'm pretty sure of it though. I remember hitting that S.O.B with Knights of the Round before and he retaliated with Ultima.

DonkeyStyle \o/

I think it's fair to say the Chocobo summons from FF7 was the be-all end-all of summons.

grimloch

right i think i used hades to stop him and then casting knights when he couldnt do anything to stop me

ghostchant

I thought anima from X was great, and bahamut zero and knights of the round from VII. And eden from VIII was kinda cool too

Ninja Turtle

ghostchant wrote:

I thought anima from X was great, and bahamut zero and knights of the round from VII. And eden from VIII was kinda cool too

Gawd, how I hated Eden. During the summoning animation, I could leave the PS, make my lunch, eat it, have a quick nap, watch some tv, come back and still have time to boost eden to full power. I didn't mind the length of most GF animations tbh, but eden was ridiculous! Still, different strokes for different folks I suppose

ghostchant

Ninja Turtle wrote:

Gawd, how I hated Eden. During the summoning animation, I could leave the PS, make my lunch, eat it, have a quick nap, watch some tv, come back and still have time to boost eden to full power. I didn't mind the length of most GF animations tbh, but eden was ridiculous! Still, different strokes for different folks I suppose

ha ha yeah i thought someone would mention that and you're right it got really annoying after the first couple of times but it was cool for impressing my friends. Still, it didn't do much damage considering you took the enemy to another dimension or something

The Free Man

Infini wrote:

Ever use that with the mime materia to beat the crap out of emerald weapon?

as far as i remember, kotr was the only summon that you couldn't mime.
i could be lying tho........

Dublin's Finest

Nope, think your right. Don't think you could mime it.


You could mime revive though couldn't you??

grimloch

are you sure you cant mime kotr?

im pretty sure you could, god my memory is hazy of that game

Retr0gamer

kotr is mime-able.

The Free Man

ah now i remember, you couldnt w-summon kotr!

grimloch

Retr0gamer wrote:

kotr is mime-able.

as i thought,

glad im not going mad

acri

To beat Emerald WEAPON, i used W-Summon and Knights of the Round and then had Tifa use Mime. I also had someone on Final-Attack Full-Life I think it was. bottom line was I was invincible. There mustve been a catch though coz I could never beat Ruby WEAPON. What a game....

Retr0gamer

ruby weapon was the easier of the 2. The trick was to enter the fight with only one character alive.

Rhyme

Chocobuckle in FF7 was most excellent but Shiva has always been my favourite summon in any FF game... i dont know why, she just always tops my list for no apparant reason, her FF8 appearance was particularly great but the FF10 one was spoiled by the

dark aeon version of her

grimloch

Rhyme wrote:

Chocobuckle in FF7 was most excellent but Shiva has always been my favourite summon in any FF game... i dont know why, she just always tops my list for no apparant reason, her FF8 appearance was particularly great but the FF10 one was spoiled by the

dark aeon version of her

i found the

dark version of her

to be a very entertaining and challenging fight, id hardly say it ruined her

Rhyme

grimloch wrote:

i found the

dark version of her

to be a very entertaining and challenging fight, id hardly say it ruined her

It was just that she whupped me solid a few times and her little 'get two attacks in one run' annoyed me a lot... that particular incarnation just doesnt make it into my top 5

grimloch

i recall that two attacks in a row, i found it anoting at first as i couldnt get the magus sisters or anima without getting through her first, that added a nice challenge to say the least

it probably wasnt the best moment in that game compared to the rest of the dark aeons but i found it entertaining nonetheless

i enjoyed the dark bahamut fight in that game now that i think of it

Retr0gamer

I hated the dark aeons. I didn't have time to level up and defeat them and they only got in my way when trying to search for secrets. they should have been optional.

The Free Man

did anybody get to penence? he must've been a tuf one....
i only got to ixion

ghostchant

The only way i beat any of the dark aeons was with yojimbo. I only wanted to beat them to get anima and the magus sisters.
And shiva was the most annoying of the ones i beat because of her speed

Crucifix

Remembering the boost system of FF8 makes me wince.
As for my favourite summon, I'll say the various incarnations of Bahamut. For comedy value, Eden. What was even happening in that sequence?

Rhyme

Crucifix wrote:

Remembering the boost system of FF8 makes me wince.
As for my favourite summon, I'll say the various incarnations of Bahamut. For comedy value, Eden. What was even happening in that sequence?

Id take a stab at a comically huge bio-whatever spaceship descends (slowly) and obliterates an enemy... makes me laugh every time, especially the 'please wait' screen that comes with the devour command

Gilgamesh

My alltime fav of course is any incarnation of Bahamut throughout all the FF games, he just rocks bigtime.

kinda liked Leviathan and Ifrit as well.

liked the three sisters from FFX too, can't remeber their names, but they were kinda funny.

Rhyme

Gilgamesh wrote:

liked the three sisters from FFX too, can't remeber their names, but they were kinda funny.

The Magus Sisters, whcih have made an appearance in the FF games albeit as an enemy. They are pretty good, the taller girls attack 'Razzia' is a godsend at that part of the game but the small ones 'Passado' rules all later on.

sci0x

Pity all those new Aeons came near the end of the game coz we didn't get much opportunity to use them

grimloch

they did come a bit late but were excellent cannon fodder for the dark fellas

Tar.Aldarion

i like odin,i like aeons