website development cost??

tadhgrrr

dont know if this is the right place for this but im looking for a guideline price to charge a small business for the development of a fairly standard website. ive done a few websites as college projects etc and ive been asked to do a website (probably ony about 5 or 6 pages..and minimal ongoing support) for a small non-technical company. ive no idea what websites cost or how much people should be paid for this sort of work.....so what should i charge??? ...any advice appreciated.

thanks

chump

It sounds to me, provided that they gave you all the blurb to throw on the site, and it is a small enough striaghtforward job that 250euro would be a good price. 5-6 pages, 50-60 per page.

I can see people who'd be willing to do it for 50euro though

neon_glows

At least €500

Okay i here this all the time, how much should i charge, blah blah blah. Now here is the pricing breakdown for a website if you were making it for someone as a cheapy as possible.

Buy a template for like 20euro online, this will save loads of time and makes sure the site looks as professional as possible when its done. So charge 35euro as you have to deal with all the transactions of money and stuff. Just type templates into google.

Purchase a domain name for 3 years (www.godaddy.com) cost about 25euro. Remember it will take at least 1 hour of your time to set up so charge 50euro. Or goto www.dot.tk and get a free .tk domain (this will give one popup though but is somewhat descreet)

purchase webspace (www.100webspace will give you free space with ads) or if the company wants to get it without ads your looking at about 12 dollars a year (plus youll get plenty room left over to add atleast two more similair sites in there. Setup cost of this inclusive so charge about 30 a year. So thats 90euro. 100webspace also does a package deal including a domain for only $31 a month might be worth looking into.

And finally for your time if it takes you approxiametly 2 days work you can charge about 100euro a day thats 200euro in total.

Now remember youll spend another days work at least in showing the costumer how to use there site and getting it submitted to search engines so thats another 100 euro and realistically speaking everytime the costumer is having a problem theyll call you and annoy you so you will want to charge another 100euro for that to.

In total for a site online for 3 years:

Template: 20euro
Setup: 15euro

Domain: 25euro
Setup: 25euro

Space: 36euro

Your Charge: 300
Plus Your Charge for Future issue's/problems: 100

Total: 521euro

Now also make sure you point out to your costumer you will charge say 20euro an hour after that for any technical/updaing/upgrading of the site. But also you can tell the costumer any issue that is technical and is not the costumers fault, ie the domain name company/hosting company you will not charge for (as your 100e covers this)

Now thats the minimum id ever do a site for.

On the other hand, you can get free webspace from 100webspace.com ad supported, plus a .tk domain name for free and spend 3 hours putting the site toger and charge 200 squid with no aftersale support and build it from scratch and use a free template that has this is a free templte printed on it and when ever you look for a job you will always be remembered as the guy who built a website for mosey down the road that looks a state.

hostyle

neon_glows wrote:

At least €500

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Buy a template for like 20euro online, this will save loads of time and makes sure the site looks as professional as possible when its done. So charge 35euro as you have to deal with all the transactions of money and stuff. Just type templates into google.

...

Now remember youll spend another days work at least in showing the costumer how to use there site and getting it submitted to search engines so thats another 100 euro and realistically speaking everytime the costumer is having a problem theyll call you and annoy you so you will want to charge another 100euro for that to.

...

Remind me never to purchase anything off you. How can you mention template and professional in the same sentence? Showing the customer how to "use" their site -WTF?

vector

neon_glows wrote:

...Remember it will take at least 1 hour of your time to set up so charge 50euro...

neon_glows A good reply, but are your saying, in general that an hour of your time is worth EUR 50 (I would have gone for EUR 10, otherwise your customers wmight leave, better to have a loyal cheapo giving you money for 3 years then asking for too much and only getting one year)

tadhgrrr

thanks for the advice...tbh i would consider an hour of my time worth far more than €10...thats pretty close to minumum wage and web design is not minumum wage work...a friend of mine who has done one or two small websites charges about €70-80 per page and €100 extra for the first page (where most of the design work is done)...which works out at around the €500 mark for a 5 page site.

heggie

its plain stupid to charge by the page, the first initial page + design is 95% of the work!

chump

To be fair web design is a piece of p!ss.

If you can get that sort of money for a non-coded site (I refer to php, databases etc.), fair play to you, but to me, that's nonsense.

I didn't include service charges (domain etc...) in my initial estimate, but I still think that is an honest price.

As for the lad who says web site design isn't a minimum wage job, perhaps for top of the range "design" but for regular websites, like the one you describe, it's fairly close, at most E20 an hour. Minimumly educated folk are doing web design courses in their throngs, it's a straightforward game, unless you prove you're markedly ahead of the game you don't deserve the prices you're speaking off.

I'm being fairly harsh but I just woke up, gud luck

JustHalf

20 Euro an hour is a ridiculously low rate to charge, as a business. Of course, if you're doing this for the laugh, it's another story.

But even at 20 euro an hour, you're only estimating 12.5 hours of work. You're not going to do a good job in 12.5 hours. Even for a site this small. It just isn't going to happen.

chump

Well JustHalf, not as a business, as a lad from college whose done a few websites, and is offered a wee nixer, I think it's enough time and money.

I'd do it.

vector

re domains

a caveat, don't charge a client e60 for a .com because any fool can go to google and found out in seconds that a .com costs e12-20 at most

So 25 would be the max to charge

heggie

chump wrote:

To be fair web design is a piece of p!ss.

You seem to think web design & web development are the same thing???

If its a good design, its not a piece of piss, it takes time, then usually they'll want alterations to it, so its back to the start again etc...

To the poster, ask yourself how good you are, and charge accordingly.

JDxtra

Also worth bearing in mind that you are not a professional as you've only "done a few websites as college projects".

You should charge €200 (excluding domain and hosting costs) and learn from the experience.

tadhgrrr

well i had a meeting with the client today, theyre happy and im happy which is the main thing we worked it out at €60 per page plus a base charge of €100. So if i do a 5 page site i get €400. ill let ye know how it turns out!

chump

heggie wrote:

You seem to think web design & web development are the same thing???

If its a good design, its not a piece of piss, it takes time, then usually they'll want alterations to it, so its back to the start again etc...

Heggie, if we were talking about the mother of websites, the ones the design studios develop, sure. If we're talking about cool webpages for bands or for an artist of some form, fair enough. High profile work, yes you have to do something special.

We're talking a small company hiring a college student to do a nixer.
We aren't talking art, we're talking functional.

BloodBath

Cool I'm in the same situation at the moment and was about to post the same question. I haven't a clue how much to charge but I think about 20e an hour + costs is a reasonable price. It's for a family friend as well so I won't be charging any more than a couple of hundred euro.


BloodBath

vector

If you are doing this as a nixer (eg student) then give consideration to the tax situation.

-Does the client want an invoice/receipt (IF YES then papertrail is established)
-Does the client pay by cheque/EFT (IF YES then papertrail is established)
-Do you divulge this income to the revenue comms?
-How?
-Do you style your enterprise as a natural person trading as a sole trader OR as an illegal, unregistered made up business name

BloodBath

Pfffft, tax :rolleyes:


BloodBath

vector

Sure, you are only talking small amounts here for nixers, but just wait until you get the white envelope with the Harp/Portcullis on it, written in a typewriter font, its always the small man that gets caught (or more precisely it is anyone who gets caught but it is only the small man that can't lawyer up)

BloodBath

Cash only as far as i'm concerned


BloodBath

tadhgrrr

hadnt really thought about the tax/legal side of things...i think im just gonna call if a favour and if i find some money lying around while im in the office ill pick it up no harm done!