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Party Poker Omaha Hand

  • 13-04-2005 8:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭


    Table was fairly typical loose passive, one or two terrible players but nothing out of the ordinary.
    Just wondering how I could have played it better?


    Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (10 handed) converter

    saw flop|saw showdown

    CO ($63.3)
    Button ($20.68)
    SB ($22.5)
    Hero ($29.35)
    UTG ($15)
    UTG+1 ($24)
    UTG+2 ($53.31)
    MP1 ($31.1)
    MP2 ($25)
    MP3 ($28.19)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh, Kc, Ad, 3d. UTG posts a blind of $0.25. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $1.6, MP2 (poster) calls $1.35, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.35, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.35.

    Flop: ($8.25) 2d, As, 5d (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25.

    Turn: ($9.50) Qh (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $5, MP1 calls $5, MP2 calls $5, SB folds, Hero calls $5.

    River: ($29.50) 6d (4 players)
    Hero bets $12, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

    Final Pot: $41.50

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Kh Kc Ad 3d (flush, ace high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $41.50.



    1) Anyone make a reraise preflop?
    2) Anyone bet the flop? I wasn't sure whether I was up against AAxx here, with that pitiful bet on the flop by MP2 I thought I shoul have check-raised the pot. But I didn't.
    3) I call the turn with the flush draw.
    4) I make my flush and bet it, could have check-raised.
    Curious as to what people might have done if the river had been Ks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    The problem with flush draws is that its hard to get paid off on them, the answer to that is not to play them, or play them aggressively in order to pick up the pot even if you miss, and also to provide deception as to what your going for. In this case its a large multiway pot, and your out of position, so your probably better off playing it passively. You could make check raise the pot on the flop and lead out on the turn, but in general the lower stakes you play the less aggressive you should be.

    1) Anyone make a reraise preflop? - Only if you are trying to run over the table; not a good idea at this stakes

    2) Anyone bet the flop? - AA might not raise you because of the possible straight.

    4) I make my flush and bet it, could have check-raised.- The check raise might pick up some money from someone bluffing, but in general leading out is better.

    5) Curious as to what people might have done if the river had been Ks - Check fold, with that many people seeing the river I would expect somebody to hit a straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    This made me giggle.

    Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (7 handed) converter

    MP2 ($21.98)
    CO ($25)
    Button ($30.35)
    SB ($19)
    BB ($44.77)
    UTG ($25.1)
    Hero ($21.9)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with As, 7d, 8d, 2s. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 raises to $3, 4 folds, UTG calls $2.25, Hero calls $2.25.

    Flop: ($9.60) 7h, Jh, 2d (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $9.15, MP2 folds, UTG raises to $20, Hero calls $9.75 (All-In).

    Turn: ($48.50) Js (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($48.50) 7c (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $48.50

    Results below:
    UTG has Qh 9s 9h Qs (two pair, queens and jacks).
    Hero has As 7d 8d 2s (full house, sevens full of jacks).
    Outcome: Hero wins $47.40. UTG wins $1.10.


    hammer.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    He is a favourite on the flop, allthough not by much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    lafortezza wrote:
    This made me giggle.

    Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (7 handed) converter

    MP2 ($21.98)
    CO ($25)
    Button ($30.35)
    SB ($19)
    BB ($44.77)
    UTG ($25.1)
    Hero ($21.9)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with As, 7d, 8d, 2s. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 raises to $3, 4 folds, UTG calls $2.25, Hero calls $2.25.

    Flop: ($9.60) 7h, Jh, 2d (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $9.15, MP2 folds, UTG raises to $20, Hero calls $9.75 (All-In).

    Turn: ($48.50) Js (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($48.50) 7c (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $48.50

    Results below:
    UTG has Qh 9s 9h Qs (two pair, queens and jacks).
    Hero has As 7d 8d 2s (full house, sevens full of jacks).
    Outcome: Hero wins $47.40. UTG wins $1.10.


    hammer.jpg

    How do you get it to use four board cards in Omaha? Or am I missing something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shortstack wrote:
    How do you get it to use four board cards in Omaha? Or am I missing something?

    Yeah.. thats confusing me too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    lafortezza wrote:
    Table was fairly typical loose passive, one or two terrible players but nothing out of the ordinary.
    Just wondering how I could have played it better?


    Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (10 handed) converter

    saw flop|saw showdown

    CO ($63.3)
    Button ($20.68)
    SB ($22.5)
    Hero ($29.35)
    UTG ($15)
    UTG+1 ($24)
    UTG+2 ($53.31)
    MP1 ($31.1)
    MP2 ($25)
    MP3 ($28.19)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh, Kc, Ad, 3d. UTG posts a blind of $0.25. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $1.6, MP2 (poster) calls $1.35, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.35, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.35.

    Flop: ($8.25) 2d, As, 5d (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25.

    Turn: ($9.50) Qh (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $5, MP1 calls $5, MP2 calls $5, SB folds, Hero calls $5.

    River: ($29.50) 6d (4 players)
    Hero bets $12, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

    Final Pot: $41.50

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Kh Kc Ad 3d (flush, ace high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $41.50.



    1) Anyone make a reraise preflop?
    2) Anyone bet the flop? I wasn't sure whether I was up against AAxx here, with that pitiful bet on the flop by MP2 I thought I shoul have check-raised the pot. But I didn't.
    3) I call the turn with the flush draw.
    4) I make my flush and bet it, could have check-raised.
    Curious as to what people might have done if the river had been Ks


    1) Out of position a call is definitely the smarter play here.

    2) Yes, you should bet to disguise you nut flush draw. Also since you are holding an ace and one is on the board you can't assume someone has an unlikely AAxx. you can only be afraid of 22, 55 and 34 all of which you have a good amount of outs to beat. By betting you may also cause players with midpairs that could hit a set to fold, or other weaker aces that could catch their kickers.

    3)Nothing wrong with the check/call on the turn.

    3) I think you should probably have bet something as small as $5 again on the river. Everyone knew someone was drawing and you needed to bet an amoutn that would give someone with a set or the wheel enough value to call.


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