Bud Rising

CBRadio

Bud rising so far, www.budrising.ie not going to be updated till 20th April apparently but here's all the details, keep an eye on ticketmaster for prices.

-Beck - Olympia - 6th June
-British Power Sea, Sons and Daughters - The Village - 7th June
-Buck 65, Jose Gonzaleaz - Whelans - 7th June
-Dizee Rascal , Black Twang, Daddy G - Ambassador - 5th June
-Engineers - Temple Bar Music Centre - 7th June
-Masters at Work - Spirit - 3rd June
-Monoband - Whelans - 4th June
-Roots Manuva - Ambassador - 1st June
-Stephen Fretwell - Whelans - 5th June
-The Departures, Editors - Whelans - 3rd June
-The Duke Spirit, VHS/Beta - Temple Bar Music Centre - 4th June
-Magic Numbers, J Chester, Jessie&Layla - The Village - 3rd June
-Tom Vek - Whelans - 6th June
-Towers of London - Whelans - 2nd June
-Whitey - Whelans - 1st June
-Weezer - Vicar Street - 7th June

scarfacemj

exams
boll0x

CBRadio

Echo & The Bunnymen - The Village, June 1st
Jimmy Cliff - Ambassador, June 3rd
Justin Robertson & Medicine8 - Spirit, June 5th
Matthew Herbert Big Band - Vicar St, June 6th
The Chalets,The Rakes,Art Brut - Vicar St, June 3rd
The Hives - Ambassador, June 2nd
The La's - Ambassador, June 7th

miss serena

Its so funny the way the drinks companies try to get young punters by putting on music festivals; Heineken Green Energy, Heinken + Guinness with Oxegen and Witness, Miller had one there last year in association with Fender.

Seems like music is the easiest way to tap into the young 'uns conscience! Drink more, drink more...!

Raggamuffin

to be honest it's the band's fault for agreeing to associate themselves with drink's companies.


don't get me wrong i liek a drink liek anybody else but why it has to invade every advertising space and musical gathering i do not know.

Oh and speaking of branding and monopolising musical advertising how about that mean fiddler takeover bid from clear channel and MCD. Alot of people making alot of money off that i'm sure.

scarfacemj

What about a beer festival advertised by a record company.....

Raggamuffin

what about a beer festival?

simple.

I mean why not say it like it is ireland we haven't got a breeze about decent music at the moment so just lets get drunk and actually have some sort of beer theme to go along with it.

I really would like to go to a festival without the massive adverstising and stupid promotions.

It is worrying though that the music industry is so dominated by beer companies. but i guess this is due to the promoters and the bands not taking some sort of stand on it. I mean if we had a choice then fair enouh but we don't.

ThatBloke

I bet it's all sunshine and rainbows in your house

scarfacemj

Raggamuffin wrote:

It is worrying though that the music industry is so dominated by beer companies. but i guess this is due to the promoters and the bands not taking some sort of stand on it. I mean if we had a choice then fair enouh but we don't.

"Heal the world, make it a better place. For you and for me and the entire human race"

bandit

In my best gravelly Springsteen impression

"We are the world, we are the childern, we are the ones who make a brighter day so lets start giving"

miss serena

Raggamuffin wrote:

to be honest it's the band's fault for agreeing to associate themselves with drink's companies.

I don't think the bands should be expected to turn down a gig because of who's promoting it. The bands just want to play, they don't care about who's putting the money in for advertising. Due to these sponsors the gig would be getting much more coverage than it would otherwise, so at the end of the day, the bands would probably be playing to a much bigger audience than usual.

I just think it's funny the way these big sponsors are big drinks companies, you know, promoting the youth to drink. What about all those water companies, or Chiquita bananas or something!!

IanluvsKathleen

man i'd love a banana festival, or maybe a festival sponsored by Lyons tea or Brillo pads. Quality.

ThatBloke

The Marigold festival, where do I sign up?

bandit

IanluvsKathleen wrote:

man i'd love a banana festival, or maybe a festival sponsored by Lyons tea or Brillo pads. Quality.

I went to a banana festival in Amsterdam but the less said about that the better

scarfacemj

bandit wrote:

I went to a banana festival in Amsterdam but the less said about that the better

lol
If Eminem and 50 Cent play Slane Im sure that would a banana festival of sorts....

McGonagles

Raggamuffin wrote:

I mean if we had a choice then fair enouh but we don't.

We do have a choice, and we always did.

Ladyfest managed to do a weekend-long
festival, with Irish, English, French and Dutch bands playing at it, with no sponsorship
from beer companies or other big corporates.

Fundraisers are a fun and workable alternative to selling your soul to DIAGEO plc.
Table quizzes, treasure hunts, gigs, discos, etc...

McGonagles

IanluvsKathleen wrote:

maybe a festival sponsored by Lyons tea or Brillo pads. Quality.

If a festival was sponsored by Calvita Cheese, they could get Stephen Roche to be the MC.

scarfacemj

IanluvsKathleen wrote:

man i'd love a banana festival, or maybe a festival sponsored by Lyons tea or Brillo pads. Quality.

A festival sponsored by Tampax could have Sinead O' Connor headlining, she always seems to be in them.....her flowers that is

butterfly

i know that a lot of bands really dont have the choice as to where to play, but the more well-off bands are the ones that make the most money with whatever gig they 're playing for the promoters/sponsors anyway, so they have the most sway. if there was a music festival sponsored by.. Esso, Coke, McDonald's and Nestle (i realise none of these are beer companies, but .. yknow.. for arguement's sake) , there might be 2 or 3 bands out of thousands who wouldn't play, but that'd probably be it. most (people in general, not just musicians..) don't really care about whether or not the sponsorship is moral, or whether the availability of only one type of beer at whatever festival means that people don't enjoy it as much, or that kids, surrounded by as much advertising as they so frequently are, would be more inclined to try to get served.. it's a shame that it's so widely accepted, but that's how **** is..

BrianD

... or whether the availability of only one type of beer at whatever festival means that people don't enjoy it as much ...

I found it ironic that often the first question asked about an outdoor gig is "what beer is being served at the bar" given that most can't tell the difference between beers and most don't know how to enjoy it. It is experience that many seem to rate a gig by the quantity of beer consumed as pposed to the quality of music heard.

Raggamuffin

I really do think that music is becoming a major force in the marketing of drink to young people. The music/beer promotion has become huge in the last few years.

I don't beelive in controls being put in place but i would like some incentives for promoters who decide not to associate themselves with major branding operations.

About the quality of music i have to agree. I found myself drinking very little at the first few witnesses, lack of funds probabaly a factor, but still with such a variety of music it was a waste of time waiting in queues for drink whilst the bands were on. The no cans at the camp sites i bet had more to do with the companies trying to make sure people drank their beer than public order or anyting like that.

asp

CBRadio wrote:

-Dizee Rascal , Black Twang, Daddy G - Ambassador - 5th June

Daddy ****in' G??? Is that those gob****es from Finglas??

ThatBloke

The lads on Grafton St. who rap about "goin' to the 'joy with me mate Roy"??

They ruled until they got attention.

scarfacemj

"Throw ya hands in da air, this sh*t here is lyrical warfare".
Poignant

asp

I have one of their MP3's at home. its ok, not into Hip Hop, but its not bad. At least they use their own accents, unlike Double-D... :rolleyes:

kirn

poor irish rappers.

if they rap in d'american they're dammed, if they rap in their own accent they're dammed.
personally, rappers make me cringe 90% of the time - unless they're really good...

butterfly

really good like buck 65??
although i don't know would you call it rap. i'd call it country music to be honest, but i couldn't tell you why or anything.
he doesn't sing, i can tell you that much..

scarfacemj

All fads will pass my friends, vive la revolution!
In the mean time may I ask you to........
"Throw ya hands in da air, this sh*t here is lyrical warfare".

IanluvsKathleen

asp wrote:

Daddy ****in' G??? Is that those gob****es from Finglas??

He's in Massive Attack

SimonMaher

Eh sorry about that, had to chop some posts there. Wandered off topic somewhat and into distinctly dubious territory! Focus people, focus!

Regards,

Pete Reed
reed@phantomfm.com
www.phantomfm.com

scarfacemj

Is it just me or is the line up pretty tame compared to years gone by? Maybe with the exception of Weezer and Beck.
Primal Scream in the Red Box was one hell of an epiphony.

Raggamuffin

how about the pixies at landsdowne road?

everywhere drinks, drinks, drinks.

The most obvious factor is that the promoters in control of the largest venues are those who have the power to control who will sponsor the gigs.

On a slightly different note, and one echoed frequently on this board and others, if these big companies sponsor these events why are the ticket prices so high and the drinks so expensive? (non alcoholic included).

scarfacemj

Capitalism in all its glory!

legofsalmon

-British Power Sea, Sons and Daughters - The Village - 7th June
-Engineers - Temple Bar Music Centre - 7th June (if the other sells out too fast or if I coudl be in two places at once )
-Stephen Fretwell - Whelans - 5th June
-The Departures, Editors - Whelans - 3rd June
-The Duke Spirit, VHS/Beta - Temple Bar Music Centre - 4th June
-Tom Vek - Whelans - 6th June
-Art Brut, The Chalets etc....

Ideal festivities for me....

anyone wanna give me tickets ?

legofsalmon

miss serena wrote:

Its so funny the way the drinks companies try to get young punters by putting on music festivals; Heineken Green Energy, Heinken + Guinness with Oxegen and Witness, Miller had one there last year in association with Fender.

Seems like music is the easiest way to tap into the young 'uns conscience! Drink more, drink more...!

I think the market they are appealing to (18-30ish) are that easily swayed.

1. anyone in that age bracket in this day and age are media savvy
2. the alternative nature of these bands, would attract an alternative crowd so to speak, who by being "alternatively inclined" have demonstrated their distaste for pop culture which is dominated by business, thus probably
3. Budweiser could offer free drink to me and I would have quarms about drinking it still... and this point applies to a lot of people I know. People drink what they like. Budweiser to me tastes horrible. The likelyhood of swaying the indecisive drinker (whom I would presume are in the minority from my experience) would be small since indecision is a habit.

scarfacemj

If they legalised narcotics there'd be plenty more competition, someone think of the children!

miss serena

legofsalmon wrote:

I think the market they are appealing to (18-30ish) are that easily swayed.

I think it's also due to young drinkers still finding 'their drink', if you know what I mean. I myself change what I drink, depending on my mood. I've also changed my beer preference at least 6 times since I started drinking when I was...18 :rolleyes:

Do the over 30ish people not change their drink preference, or is the 18-30ish market just a more profitable and susceptible market?

Milkman Dan

god.
drink.

no - correct me if i'm wrong - but bands like the departures, the editors, tom vek, and duke spirit are all bluster no tunes.

actually, don't correct me.