Duel booting MAC & Windows

the_syco

Hi all,
Recently got MacOS X Panther, and I'm thinking of of putting it on the same machine as Windows. I'll be using Acronis OS Selector 8 (I've used it beofre when I was trying out Linux) as the boot loader.

The question; will the MacOS run on a Pentium based machine? I'm asking, as I think the Apples' CPU use a different set of instructions than the Pentium CPU, and I'm hoping this doesn't cause any problems.

So; would this cause a problem, and has anyone done this before?

uberwolf

Unless I'm missing something startling the two OS are incompatible on a processor. You'll need an emulator to run Panther - and existing emulators are a curiousity more than a functional tool as it stands. this seems more like a scam than anything else and Pear PC is unusable according to its developers even.

the_syco

uberwolf wrote:

Unless I'm missing something startling the two OS are incompatible on a processor. You'll need an emulator to run Panther - and existing emulators are a curiousity more than a functional tool as it stands. this seems more like a scam than anything else and Pear PC is unusable according to its developers even.

Ah yes. I suspected something like that. Not to worry; I'm able to get that.

/edit

Just read the link. Seemingly someone just stole the code from Pear (even the error codes), and is now trying to sell it under their own label (CherryOS). POS, IMO, but what the hell. I'll try (nearly) everything once :rolleyes:

rsynnott

No, no, those emulators don't work. But the good news is, you CAN run Windows and MacOS on the same hardware! Just grab yourself a copy of NT 3.1 for PowerPC! :rolleyes:

po0k

just run *nix on whatever hardware you like.

L1011

rsynnott wrote:

No, no, those emulators don't work. But the good news is, you CAN run Windows and MacOS on the same hardware! Just grab yourself a copy of NT 3.1 for PowerPC! :rolleyes:

Or 4.0. But you'll need the magical mystical "Boot Floppies for Macintosh" that were meant to come in the post

AND NEVER CAME DAMMIT

NT for PPC works only on IBM PReP hardware, not Macintosh/BeBox/Gamecube/Anything Else PPC. So you can run Windows and AIX on the same box, but no MacOS...

rsynnott

There's also a 386 port of Darwin (the underlying kernel). Not hugely useful as yet. And probably never would be; providing a decent easy-to-use OS on 386 would be great for them in the short-term but terrible in the long-term as people abandoned the Mac hardware platform.

Hugh_C

rsynnott wrote:

...but terrible in the long-term as people abandoned the Mac hardware platform.

Huh?

Far from abandoning it... droves of people are switching to Mac

Ruaidhri

hughchal wrote:

Huh?

Far from abandoning it... droves of people are switching to Mac

Damned Straight
The geeks are moving to mac by the dozen lately. it's just this week that i moved completly to mac ( i've wanted for ages, just didnt have the money! ). i mean beautiful UI, BSD under the hood and stylish to boot, what else could you wish for from a computer

If you have a mac you can *emulate* windows under MS virtual pc, and if you have a pc you can *emulate* mac os under PearPC/CherryOS.

Capt'n Midnight

www.macwindows.com
basilisk
http://lowendmac.com/mac2win/02/0501.html - don't think it will get to OS X though. ( It's An Open Source 68k Macintosh Emulator )

see also http://www.emulators.com/download.htm
apple BIOS download http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/

rsynnott

Ruaidhri wrote:

If you have a mac you can *emulate* windows under MS virtual pc, and if you have a pc you can *emulate* mac os under PearPC/CherryOS.

*coughs* Well, theoretically. (Virtual PC works passably; PearPC and such don't. You can emulate a 68k Mac on a PC quite nicely, but not a PowerPC).

Ruaidhri

it's the thought that counts
i just dont know why anyone would try emulate an OS ( unless the OS in question is very, very old! ) because it's damned slow. dont waster your time gerry, get yourself a second hand mac or a new mini

nadir

Ruaidhri wrote:

Damned Straight
The geeks are moving to mac by the dozen lately. it's just this week that i moved completly to mac ( i've wanted for ages, just didnt have the money! ). i mean beautiful UI, BSD under the hood and stylish to boot, what else could you wish for from a computer

A high performance operating system that's completely free & open source, dual boots with anything, runs on all types of hardware from massive clusters to ITX and can be built all the way up from base to third party apps with specific optimizations for your instruction sets?

McClane

A high performance operating system that's completely free & open source, dual boots with anything, runs on all types of hardware from massive clusters to ITX and can be built all the way up from base to third party apps with specific optimizations for your instruction sets?

How dare you offer a better Open Source OS optimised exactly for your hardware (www.gentoo.org) over our beloved closed source, unoptimised, generic expensive operating systems!

We love getting $%^&^$'d by Microsoft and Apple, Bill Gates could repackage 95, make the start menu look different, have a different colour background, package it and sell it and we'd all buy it and be happy for the privilege of running his software before having to go out and buy MS Office 95 reloaded because out old version isn't compatible with the new paperclip which has killer new features, like humming the tune to the sound of music constantly.

daveirl

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DamoRed

I actually came here to ask a question of a similar nature. What I was thinking about was if I got a Mac mini and a cheapish PC system with dual compatiblity keyboard and widescreen flat monitor, how would that work? I know I'd need seperate connections from both systems into the screen. As far as I know, the Apple cinema screens are usable on PCs.

The problem that's in my mind is whether I'd be able to have them both running at the same time on the one screen, would this be possible?


Damo

Urban Weigl

You'd be able to run both at the same time, and switch between them. Some monitors already have dual input built right in (like the Dell LCD I'm using at the moment, which has 4 inputs, and a button to toggle them), or you can get a KVM.