Spammer gets nine years.

Romo

I don't like spammers but nine years is a bit harsh.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=653257&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Capt'n Midnight

pumping out at least 10 million e-mails a day

Lets say each email wasted one second of a persons time. This works out at 1.5 YEARS of wasted per day. (using a 37.5 hour week). Also there are still a lot of people round here on dial-up, and spam costs them money in because of the extra time they spend on line.

secret_squirrel

Disagree totally - he should have got more. The only way to deter these scumbags is severe punishment. Plus instantly back to jail after release if he even approaches a PC again.

He is part of an industry that has probably cost ISP's and their users literally millions in filtering, extra bandwidth and wasted man hours reading his crap.

Spam is periously close to destroying Email as a useful communications medium. The only way to stop them is to close down their business model by making too costly in social or economic terms to be worthwhile.

I think the last figure I saw quoted 79% of all mails are spam.

Capt'n Midnight

secret_squirrel wrote:

Spam is periously close to destroying Email as a useful communications medium. The only way to stop them is to close down their business model by making too costly in social or economic terms to be worthwhile.

Last cost I saw was that spam / phishing / worries of credit card fraud were costing the e-economy about €40Bn a year !

My post about the waste of resources is about the magnitude of the crime - over a month that person would have wasted the equilivant of an entire lifetime of man-hours !

OY

People who spend their time wasting others should be punished and as Capt'n Midnight said, the sheer amount of time and money wasted means that this is not a harsh sentence at all IMO.

Keep the sentences coming...

secret_squirrel

Just to clarify - agree totally with Capt and not OP. Look at the posting times. I was in mid-rant as you were posting Capt.

Economic costs to the spammers business model (and business) - Massive fines.

Social Costs to the spammer - Enough time in the Big House that their arse hangs around their ankles by the time they get out.

Add some technological fixes too and we might just get a handle on it - or at least reduce it to a bearable level like junk (snail) mail.

DonkeyStyle \o/

"...he argued during the trial that the law was poorly crafted and that prosecutors never proved the e-mail was unsolicited."

Ahahaha 10 million a day? :rolleyes:
Lame argument IMO, I'm glad common sense prevailed in that ruling.
Now go and jail those telemarketing muppets that wake people up in the middle of the night with a phonecall trying to sell their crap... same crime if you ask me.

Creature

Have to say I'm glad people are finally being prosecuted for this, though in this case he'll probably get off when the appeal goes through. Really can't see him actually getting put away for nine years.

Interestingly enough this guy is on Wikipedia. Seems he's one of the biggest spammers in the world.

"During the trial it was revealed that Jaynes had delivered physical junk mail during the 1990s. His e-mail outfit primarily advertised a variety of "work at home" schemes. Of the hundreds of thousands of e-mails he broadcast per day, only an estimated 10-17,000 replied; but with orders of $39.95 per customer, Jaynes earned up to $750,000 per month, and amassed a personal fortune estimated at $24 million, against line rental of $50,000 per month."

$24 million from spam! :eek:.

BuffyBot

Mmm...I'm happy enough with that sentence.

*Angel*

He deserves it! Such a loser...

Infini

Serves him right. Who wants stupid junk mail in their inbox every day of the week.

*adele*

Still a bit much

Creature

Not for someone who made millions of dollars on wasting people's time.

Hash Boy

Eh, to all the people who are saying "He deserves it, hahaha" - his sentence was suspended and he will probably win his appeal - am I the only one who spotted the bit where he has basically gotten away with it?

He's still a c*nt though.

MrPinK

He certainly deserves nine years, although I'm not sure why he was prosecuted for spamming and not fraud. He took $24m from people, selling them products they sometimes didn't even exist.

secret_squirrel

MrPinK wrote:

He certainly deserves nine years, although I'm not sure why he was prosecuted for spamming and not fraud. He took $24m from people, selling them products they sometimes didn't even exist.

Where does it say that? the original article doesnt mention it, neither do the ones I found after a quick google on Spamhaus and Slashdot. None of them mention that his products didnt exist - they only mention that each purchase was worth $40 to him.

adele wrote:

Still a bit much

You're being naive. He made $24m from illegal practises - if it had been for any other offense worth $24m he would have been banged up for longer. Spamhaus reckons at the time of his arrest he was the 8th most prolific spammer in the world.

Hash Boy wrote:

his sentence was suspended

His sentence was postponed not suspended - until after his appeal - if it fails he'll do bird.

BrokenArrows

I agree with the sentence of 9 years but not being able to access a pc again is a bit harsh. Computers are a part of every persons life today and will be alot more in 9 years.

How do they expect a person to live in society and not be able to use a computer,.

secret_squirrel

BrokenArrows wrote:

How do they expect a person to live in society and not be able to use a computer,.

That was my suggestion not the courts. :rolleyes:

Why shouldnt these people be banned from PC access ever again when they have a history of abusing them?

Zoned

He is being made an example of.
There is no way he will stay in for 9 years...
This is one of the first so they are coming down heavy....