Moving out dilemma...

LegacyUser

Hy,

OK just started full time employment (Finish college etc...) The parentials want €100 / week to stay in the house sounds a bit hungry to me so the plan is to move out ASAP.
Im 20 and am just wondering what are plps experiences of move out @ this age, getting own place / room hopefully in the city center. Would €400 / month be enough to rent a room somewhere?
Anyone have any sites I could take a look @ for renting rooms etc...

Thanks,

Beruthiel

Moving Out? wrote:

OK just started full time employment (Finish college etc...) The parentials want €100 / week to stay in the house sounds a bit hungry to me so the plan is to move out ASAP.

if it includes food, roof over your head, heating, lighting etc.. then it's not hungry at all

Im 20 and am just wondering what are plps experiences of move out @ this age, getting own place / room hopefully in the city center. Would €400 / month be enough to rent a room somewhere?

I imagine you can find something for that price, have you looked here, sometimes there are threads up
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=38

Boston

It's ok, but it aint great. Since your paying room and board, are you allowed bring back who ever you want(Gf whatever), if not, its abit of a rip/.

Sleepy

€400 a month won't get you a place in city centre, feed you & pay your bills etc.

lacuna

€400 a month is approx what you'd be paying your parents if you stayed at home (€100 per week). Like Beriuthiel said, they'd be paying the bills, buying the food, etc. It's be far more expensive to move out imo.

irlirishkev

€400 a month isn't that much to expect from you tbh.. Especially if you're not paying bills, and I bet your mum is still doing your washing and cooking you meals.

I was paying a little bit more than that at home, for a couple of years before I moved out. It's only when you do move out that you realise how much more you spend on living. If you don't mind living at home, then I wouldn't bother moving out just yet. If you find it too claustrophobic, then that's a different story..

Kev.

Zulu

€100 per week is fair.
Rent in city centre is ~€500 per month.
Rent further out cost less, but then you're paying taxi's and bus fairs etc..

You need to work out how much you spend on food/telephone etc.. That being said, moving out is great. Nothing better than having your own place.

IANOC

if you want space mate move out
but if you get on with your parents , €100 a week is very fair taking into account the above mentioned.
if things are getting bad relationship wise you would be better off on your own but if you have no problems with parents and you are allowed privacy etc, you would be crazy to complain over €100 a week
regards
ian

bonzai bob

I'm 21 and live at home, 100/ week to mother, i cook my own meals and look after myself, i pay ntl and she pays broadband, plus we each have our seperate bills, ok i MAY live with my mother but it's not that much different than living on my own. She may cook once a week or so for everyone, but that's about it.

Tbh if you don't need to move out then don't, it'll probably mean just more pressure on yourself, especially if you have to have a budget on every single thing.

I suppose that i'm probably in a better situation, it's just me, me ma and brother, plus my gf more or less lives with us and she pays rent aswell, and my bro is moving this month, so no one gets in anyone elses way.

elle

Was in a similar situation myself a while back, I live in dublin but not city centre, just thought it'd be handier to live more central coz i work and socialize there anyway, plus the independance thingwas a big issue. But seriously renting is dead money, i'm gna stick with the folks til i can afford a deposit on a house of my own. When you think about it 400pm isn't that bad and if you were living out somewhere you would have a hell of a lot more to pay on top of that. If you really think it's very steep maybe try talking to your parents, tell them you can't aford that much, are trying to save etc etc and try reach some sort of compromise!

Raz

There's more to moving out than just the financial side of things.
Because you're 20 and are still dependent on your parents they probably pretty much treat you like they did when you were a teen, unless you're blessed with special parents
When you move out on your own and start paying your own way for everything you will find that your folks will notice your new found maturity (Paying bill will do that to you) and you'll find yourself having more mature discussions with them.
They will also appreciate not having to feed you anymore (You'll hear them say things like "We've so much food in the house now!") and they'll also appreciate the space to themselves.
You'll notice they also appreciate you more when you come home ... absence makes the heart grow fonder.
That said, you'll also appreciate what they do for you ... the amount of washing and food prepared ... the quality of the meals. The constant care an attention.
All these things bring your relationship leaps forward and you will be a lot happier I'd say.


Since you're a college grad and in a full time job now (I'm assuming you got a job with your degree and not in the local newsagents) you'll most likely be earning a decent wage. If you're earning 20K plus a year then you'll have no problem affording your own place. You won't be left with too much to go impulse shopping with but you shouldn't be too hard pressed.
Rent is dead money, it doesn't accumulate into anything in the future. Once you spend it, it's gone. With a house and a mortgage you'll have a house at the end of it. But are you ready to start paying a mortgage at 20? I'd say rent for 2 or 3 years while saving a bit of money, then blow all those savings on a world tour when you come back then start thinking about a mortgage (you mightn't even want to stay in Ireland after that, and in most countries housing is much cheaper than here!).
Try and move in with one or two others of your friends if you can. Though if your adventurous then moving in with people you don't know will be fun. Just make sure you have somebody you can share the burden of the bills with.
Be prepared for disputes, but above all enjoy the independence.
Weigh up the pros and cons, try and work out what finances you'll be left with for yourself. You'll spend about €50 -> €100 on food a week, electricity will be about €50 a month and ntl if you get it will be about €30 a month (I think).
Don't you just love life decisions

Lafortezza

Move out asap, struggle to make ends meet, then once you get a decent job and are comfortable living away from home you'll appreciate it alot more.
And you'll appreciate your parents for suffering you for 20 years.

dictatorcat

Move out. You might have to pay a bit extra but if you look hard enough it won't be that much. Also if you share a house it can bring down the rent. Freedom to do whatever you like for €20 extra a month is not that expensive.

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if someone is still living at home after 21 i have very little respect them. You can't bring people back to your house, you've someone to do your washing, basically you haven't learned basic independence.

Naturally people who live at home will now reply with "but it's so expensive", and the other usual excuses. There's no excuse, people (and i mean men especially!) have to learn basic responsibility and independence and that cannot be done when living at home.

Altheus

If you're going to resent paying 100 quid a week to live at home, then it's worth paying 150 to live outside of home. You'd get a room in the suburbs for about 300 a month, and then the other 100 will be your bills. 50 quid a week IS easily enough food for one, if you're not sure how to cook, just google it...

I say find a reliable group to live with and get out and have fun. *then come home for food/washing/sympathy, and all the other glories bestowed upon prodigal sons*

bonzai bob

dictatorcat wrote:

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if someone is still living at home after 21 i have very little respect them. You can't bring people back to your house, you've someone to do your washing, basically you haven't learned basic independence.

That's a sweeping generalization as well as an uneducated opinion. I'm 21 and live at home, i can bring whom ever i want home, my gf lives with me, i do my own washing, i pay my own bills, i work full time. I am independant, just because you're mammy and daddy always held your hand doesnt mean all mammy's and daddy's do it.

iguana

If you decide to move out check out daft.ie It's about the best place to search.

I know a few people with their own room in a shared house/apt for about €400/450 a month in Ranelagh, Rathmines and Harolds Cross.

LegacyUser

Thanks for the comments so far, still a bit undecided.

just to clear a few things up, I get nothing done for me No cleaning / Washing / Food etc... I get a double room in my parents house.

Cheers,

dictatorcat

bonzai bob wrote:

That's a sweeping generalization as well as an uneducated opinion. I'm 21 and live at home, i can bring whom ever i want home, my gf lives with me, i do my own washing, i pay my own bills, i work full time.

I knew i was going to provoke a reply like this. Your girlfriend lives with you? Is that not unfair on a) your parents, having someone else in the house, especially someone they cant offend because she's your girlfriend, and b) your girlfriend, some sort of "trying to steal my son" tension is bound to form between her and your mother.

bonzai bob wrote:

I am independant, just because you're mammy and daddy always held your hand doesnt mean all mammy's and daddy's do it.

That's my point, i haven't lived at home since i was 18, my mother and father don't hold my hand. Judging by the tone of your post i sense that i hit a very tender nerve.

skywalker

dictatorcat wrote:

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if someone is still living at home after 21 i have very little respect them. You can't bring people back to your house, you've someone to do your washing, basically you haven't learned basic independence.

I dont think anyone will hate you. Maybe see you as an attention seeker for your sweeping generalisation. Your assuming everyone living at home has the same arrangement with the parents. I for one wont loose any sleep over your withdrawn respect. Im 25 living at home and enjoy the arrangement/relationship I have with my folks, and dont see any need to change it in the immeidiate future.

Beruthiel

could we get back to the topic of this thread now?
B

bonzai bob

dictatorcat wrote:

I knew i was going to provoke a reply like this. Your girlfriend lives with you? Is that not unfair on a) your parents, having someone else in the house, especially someone they cant offend because she's your girlfriend, and b) your girlfriend, some sort of "trying to steal my son" tension is bound to form between her and your mother..

Why do you think this? I only live with my mother and brother, my mother and gf actually get on well with each other, plus my mother is glad of the extra rent. My gf likes living here, she's only staying here because she now goes to college in Dublin(she's from meath), it's cheaper than anywhere else(50 a week) and she doesn't have to worry about bills etc, somethin i cleared with my mother because she understands that she's in college and needs every penny, and my gf buys here own food each week, so it's no extra cost to my mother.

dictatorcat wrote:

That's my point, i haven't lived at home since i was 18, my mother and father don't hold my hand. Judging by the tone of your post i sense that i hit a very tender nerve.

I said did hold your hand, past tense. If i really cared what you thought i also would have moved out at 18, but i don't really care, the 'tone' of my post is there because someone can be soo closed minded to think that just because you live at home after a certain age then you can't be independant. To be honest, i've been independant since i was 16 and i got my first job.

Beruthiel

ok
let me spell it out then
the next person to go off topic gets banned

B

Steveire

I just moved back into my parents house after living away for 3 months. I had a great time and the rent was e300 per month, and i was right beside UCD. You can feed yourself for about e30 per week (or less, depending on whether you buy premier daries milk or tesco milk etc.). I was just lucky cos i only had a commitment for three months. We didnt have a telephone (unnecessary anyway), or NTL (just the 4 channels ), and the electricity was about 120 per 2 months between 3 people (that was during winter).

In summary, it's definitly affordable, but you might want to save a bit for a while if you don't plan to work while living away. Also it's a lot of fun, and very few Dubs do it.

I'd say give it a shot.

Esel

Quintessential problem?

Should I stay or should I go....

Let's see... born in the nest; eat in the nest; **** in the nest; sick in the nest; cleaned in the nest; clothed in the nest; kept healthy in the nest; bring friends to the nest (your room?); happy in the nest (?); .... etc. etc.

But - clean the nest; respect the nest; contribute for own upkeep in the nest; fix the nest ... etc. etc. ???

Negotiate the 'parentials' (doh) down to what seems fair (to you - say 7 x burger/chips/coke) then add 15% as a gratuity. People like acknowledgement.

On second thoughts: leave the nest - and stay away until you are grounded. Don't go there to eat, wash, have plumage preened, get stroked, etc. etc. Don't call nest for cash, car, credit, etc. etc.

Get your own sub-nest, keep it clean, don't ever think of asking any 'visitors' to make a subscription towards paying their way. You owe it to the world.

King Zog (of Albania) could live like a royal for €100 per week. You, probably, could not. You will never know until you try.

Try. Hard.