rat poison brands ,advice,good brand ??

gamer

is there such a thing as a fast effective rat poison that will kill em quickly, is Storm brand poison better than other brands, can any one recommmend a good brand poison ,i have 2 in attic they seem to be avoiding the traps i set 4 em.i already searched forums 4 advice,re previous posts in diy.

Doper Than U

Eradirat is supposed to be good, and it won't kill any other animals while it does the job. Do a google search for it.

kadman

gamer wrote:

is there such a thing as a fast effective rat poison that will kill em quickly, is Storm brand poison better than other brands, can any one recommmend a good brand poison ,i have 2 in attic they seem to be avoiding the traps i set 4 em.i already searched forums 4 advice,re previous posts in diy.

Rat poison is the last thing you need for rats in the attic. If they are living in the attic, or any part of the house, the last thing you want is a dead rotting corpse in your attic or cavity. Apart from the smell which could take months to fade, you will never know if you have gotten rid of all your problem.

A trap or eco friendly way of catching your rats, is the only way of dealing with your problem. I would be reluctant to use poison, if the rats are resident in your house.

kadman

Capt'n Midnight

AFAIK most rat posions work by causing internal bleeding, long slow painfull death and all that loss of fluid is thirsty work so the rat goes off to find water and is supposed to die outside the building so no smell.

You can get humane mouse traps but you have to look after them every day or few hours in case yer man gets stressed or starves. there is also rodent paper , like fly paper they stick to it but it's stressful too.

kadman

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

AFAIK most rat posions work by causing internal bleeding, long slow painfull death and all that loss of fluid is thirsty work so the rat goes off to find water and is supposed to die outside the building so no smell.

You can get humane mouse traps but you have to look after them every day or few hours in case yer man gets stressed or starves. there is also rodent paper , like fly paper they stick to it but it's stressful too.

Hi Capt'n Midnight,

Thats all fine and dandy if our furry friend is reading this post, but I doubt it.

Roland rat is living in his high rise attic penthouse because he has the folowing things close to hand. Heat, privacy, and 40 gals of his most precious commodity, water. So he may not have to go outside.

If he does, he might drink his fill, and mosey back in to die, or drink his fill from your tank, and then die. Either way if he has access to the attic, which he has, and dies there...smelly.aaaarrrgghh.

I'd prefer to see the little buggers dead carcass

kadman

Capt'n Midnight

kadman wrote:

Thats all fine and dandy if our furry friend is reading this post, but I doubt it.

LOL
I'd be afraid of the quick acting poisons meself in case of accidents.

In chinese cities people have commented on a lack of rats and pigeons because of the lack of food for them , could you try getting rid of thier food supply ??
Or wander down to the pound to rescue a cat ?

yop

Storm is the stuff you are looking for, makes the die with the thirst and drives them crazy

Drag00n79

Storm is pretty effective alright. I have heard of people pre-baiting rat-traps as rats are generally much more clever than mice. Not a nice thought though. How do you know you have rats and not mice?

magnumlady

Storm is the best thing, we had a couple of rats between the plasterboard and the brick wall in our bedroom, tried everything and in the end the storm was the only thing that worked, it took a few days though (thankfully they didn't die behind the wall). One of the buggers chewed a hole through the plasterboard and died in the bedroom, awful sight that was and hubby being the man that he is, got me to move it!

gamer

cos i found 1 in a trap bout 4 inchs long ,i presume its a rat,my neighbour told me put down poison cos he cud hear rat running round attic at night his bedroom is very close to my attic i caught 1 in trap the other one is too smart too go into the ratrap, its getting bigger he says it got into his attic too ,chewed thru plaster ,ill put down storm today.he just wants it dead fast.

kadman

gamer wrote:

cos i found 1 in a trap bout 4 inchs long ,i presume its a rat,my neighbour told me put down poison cos he cud hear rat running round attic at night his bedroom is very close to my attic i caught 1 in trap the other one is too smart too go into the ratrap, its getting bigger he says it got into his attic too ,chewed thru plaster ,ill put down storm today.he just wants it dead fast.

That's a mouse, a rat would be about 11" long, tip to tail.
What trap are you using.
kadman

Drag00n79

Yup, you caught a mouse alright. A trap with some melted on cheese will catch him fairly quickly. I've heard of all other types of bait but some smelly cheddar still works best for me. There's a good trap for sale in a lot of petrol stations at the moment. Not sure who makes them but they have "Big Cheese" printed in red on them and are sold in packs of four. Extremely sensitive (and hence tricky to set) but very effective. Next step is to find out how they got in. That is not as easy as it sounds though as mice can squeeze through the tiniest of gaps.

magnumlady wrote:

One of the buggers chewed a hole through the plasterboard and died in the bedroom

Lovely image!

morgana

Doper Than U wrote:

Eradirat is supposed to be good, and it won't kill any other animals while it does the job. Do a google search for it.

Yeah right. That might well be the case. But you can't get it in Ireland as they don't have an agent/distributor here. And get this: For postage they want (AFAICR) 65 p per kg AND a "surcharge" of 16 Sterling. :mad:
I was looking into this as it sounds good but, on the up side, apparently
"Also note that Eradirat &*Eradimouse, whilst approved by the HSE in the UK as a Biocide are currently granted exempt status in ROI."
They sent me a list with supplier prices (a pallet full of the stuff) ... anyone looking for a business opportunity ?

Wobs

Hi

I had rats in my apartment when I moved in. Tried all sorts to get rid of them. Because it was a new apartment I got onto the developer. They sent out a pest control company. They laid bait everywhere (they actually took the bait from the kitchen while he was putting it under the bath). It worked like a charm, they were gone in about 3 days and there was no smell.

Pest control companies are good but expensive (luckily the developer took care of the bill) but they know what their doing!

gamer

i used standard rattrap bout 9by 5inchs in size, i put down storm and found 2 dead rats ,i think they are all dead now, i used to hear em, at night running round attic.see no point in hiring pest control they just put down poison same as me, this is not ROCKET SCIENCE.

beata.jenice

I have a question, everyone is so freakin hyped up about the effects of rat poisons on wildlife, and unintended victims like dogs, cats and stupid children; but there isnt one freakin article on the internet which tells the general public which freakin method of killing rats would work best to avoid the previously mentioned grevious circumstances.

Facebook cant help, wikipedia cant help and all the nature conservations apparently havent had a proactive thought in their lives.

And yes, Ive done the cat thing, Ive done the mouse traps/ rat traps and tried to attract the attention of owls in the local neighborhood, they are present, but dont seem to hunt in my freakin yard, but you never know, one day is one day, and Im scared that the'll ingest a poisenous rat and die. After all, the ones we have in our area, are an endagered species.

Is there anyone on this site that can help shed some light on this worrisome topic?

Carlow52

Well for you that your main concern is

Im scared that the'll ingest a poisenous rat and die

When Joe Public is 300 to 400k down the hole in neg equity, is unemployed and has 3 or 4 kids to feed/cloth/school/protect from pedos/avoid being illiterate, I am not certain that the above will be top of his agenda.

The scandal of illiteracy is my main concern
the scale of the problem can be seen here
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0414/1224294669072.html

mad m

beata.jenice wrote: »

Is there anyone on this site that can help shed some light on this worrisome topic?

Seen a programme on C4 the other night and they had four people with different types of infestation, out of the four the rats are the hardest to clear. They have to have a water supply, the most important thing is to block their entry, their entry into a property is paramount to solving most if not all your problems with rats.

I had a serious problem a little while back, must of caught near 20 rats, mostly babies though, but got the mother and father with poison, and believe me the stench is unreal when they go into a corner and die. My problem was the sewer, the man hole inside was laced with poison and this is how we copped on that they were getting out through it.

Had to tear up part of my old floor where the new extension I got done. Cut a long story short, they gained entry from a branch off my old sewer which wasn't blocked off fully, its unreal how they managed to get in, but rats have time. Luckily I blocked off their entry and have been rat free since....

The wooden traps were great for catching them with peanut butter and melted chocolate onto spring, with the added protection of a screw into the side of it and tied up with string so if the trap didn't kill it, he couldn't run away with it....

Anyway anyone who is having problems with rats can ring up their Health board as they will come out free of charge (depending on your area) and lay poison and give advice....

Merch

Looking for some advice, I have often over the years heard what I thought was scurrying noises in the attic, I put it down to birds on the roof/gutters as I looked and could find no evidence of rat or mice droppings and no evidence of knawing.

Is it possible I could have rodents if I have never seen them and can see no evidence of droppings or knawing?

I have seen what I thought was a mouse once sneak out from under my shed once recently, also I saw a big bugger come out (it was about the size of a red brick, so Im guessing a rat). The house behind me which was rented had rubbish piled up against their side wall for months. When I went around to ask about it they actually had a skip and were removing it, but the guy said to me there were always cats around and he though it was cos of the bins, he also said when he cleared the wooden shed and rubbish, mice (he says) were scarpering all over the place.

phog

As already said STORM is probably the best, one thing to note regardless of the poison you use, rats are hoarders, so they will continue to take the poison and my eat very little of it. So with storm or anything else that thay can carry you need to prevent them taking it and make them eat it on site.

With storm, I drill a hole in it and tie it with a bit of wire and anchor the wire or I use a piece of timber with 2 or 3 nails driven into it and then place once piece of storm poison onto each nail.

sealgaire

My lab got his way into a bad of Storm and ate the whole bloody thing! Didn't knock a patch outta him, thought he was done for :eek:

Merch

Where do I get STORM? how effective is it? or where can I get traps even, saw a rat hopping around in the long grass (to busy to cut for another week) it went under the shed, between them and now a heap of magpies turning up I think I need to get an air rifle

perry stanley

Hi there,
Heres some info /facts that may help (hopefully) what you may be dealing with. Some rats (older ones in particular) will wait for one of the more younger inexperienced ones to eat the poison and see what effect it may have. If they were caught they very often will go and drink sufficient to dilute and render ineffective the poison. Farmers are one of the best at dealing with this problem. They have often mixed cocktails so that if they are dealing with 'intelligent' ones the mixture/cocktail quite often works better when the rat(s) drink etc.
Long trials/experiments have shown these details to be so. However I am wondering if ( especially as lots consider them not to be pests :( ) I may have said too much already. Daft world we sometimes live in...
Storm is effective ,but not all, in some cases has not dealt with the problem.

topdost

Pretty old thread but wondering if any one can tell where can i buy storm poison in Dublin

castle2012

Yes any building providers. I'm currently battling the rats. laying storm every second day in a pipe under my shed. I also break storm up in little bits so the rats have to eat on site

kiokma

I am tired with rat. I tried a few poison but I don't think those worked much. Actually, those rat size very big and it could be another reason for poison not working on them. Every night they come using hole(which hole are practically not possible to close permanently). So, I am looking for any homemade poison option that will work. Any Idea? ???

Ultimanemo

Late now but I heard of a method: make small balls of peanut butter and feed the rats for a week, after a week add 50% plaster of paris and mix, don't add any water, use vegetable oil. make a similar small balls. the rats will eat the balls and die.

When we had a problem laying a few traps (trex type, serious beast) with peanut butter and leaving them for a week done the job.

Wouldn't be mad on poisoning. Risking the stench.