It's Omaha time!

Lafortezza

'Borrowed' from 2+2 Omaha forum.
How would you have played each hand and what do you think the Hero did right or wrong in each hand?

Hand One:
Pot-Limit Omaha High, $.50 BB (8 handed)
CO ($22.15)
Button ($58.55)
SB ($47.70)
Hero ($46)
UTG ($43.05)
UTG+1 ($22.70)
MP1 ($49)
MP2 ($23.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with As, 3c, Qc, 4s.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) Kh, 7s, 2s (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $2.5, SB folds, Hero calls $2.50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($7.50) Jc (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.5, Hero calls $7.50.

River: ($22.50) 8c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: $22.50


Hand Two:
5 or 6-handed game, I pot it from BB with Qs8sQc8c. One player after you and the SB call.

Flop: 7xQh7h. Perfect. SB (about average) checks, I check (only need to be afraid of KK, AA would have reraised), EP checks.

Turn: 6d. SB pots, with more than 3 of those bets still standing in front of him. Against your average guy, do you generally

a) smooth-call
b) min-raise
c) repot it? (which would put SB more or less exactly allin)


Hand Three:
$25 PL Omaha Hi - Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jeffraiderSA [ 9d Jd As Ad ]
lanano29_3 calls [$0.25].
jeffraiderSA raises [$1.1].
KristoferW calls [$1.1].
FarainThraim calls [$1.1].
fuinronin folds.
asdpokerasd folds.
TJS1138 calls [$0.85].
lanano29_3 calls [$0.85].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 4d, Td ]
>You have options at Table 36677 Table!.
TJS1138 checks.
lanano29_3 checks.
jeffraiderSA bets [$5.35].
KristoferW folds.
FarainThraim folds.
TJS1138 folds.
lanano29_3 folds.
jeffraiderSA does not show cards.
jeffraiderSA wins $10.7


Hand Four
Hero is in SB and smooth-calls with AAxx single-suited a very good players button raise, 5-way, $77 pot. Button and Hero have 1000 each.

Flop: AxTx3d rainbow. Hero check-calls buttons pot, as does another player.

Turn: Td. Checked through.

River: xd. Button bets 50, hero raises to 150, 3rd guy fold, button raises to 350, Hero ?


Hand Five
Online 3/6 blinds PLO.

I have about $700, villain has me covered.

I limp early with AA98 rainbow, we see the flop five ways for the minimum, so pot after rake is $28.2 or something like that.

Flop: A98 rainbow.

That looks a little TOO much like my hand. I decide that since it will be hard for me to fill, and noone is likely to put me on aces, and the smaller sets are pretty unlikely, I'll check and then hopefully raise the maximum, trying to get a little more value from my hand but probably end it on the flop. Too many straight cards can come etc. for me to want to play a huge pot, unless someone is willing to just go nuts on the flop with me which is fine.

Anyway, it checks around. Turn is a 4, completing the rainbow. Blinds check, I pot it, hoping someone will look me up with 2 pair or a new set of 4s or something. A tricky, loose, probably winning player raises the pot, and folded back to me (pot is now aroung $170, and it's about $86 to me).
I re-pot it now (so it's about $250 back to him, I have about $350 left). And he folds.

Am I leaving money on the table here? Is raising less an option? Should I just call and hope he fires another barrel with a bluff, calling on the river no matter what? Did I mess it all up by not betting on the flop, even though I'd probably just win a small pot if I did?

careca

First of all, Luke, you have too much time on your hand !!

Hand 1. Should not have called the turn bet. Getting two to one pots odds looking for one to the nut flush.

Hand 2. I would repot it. I know you could be up against 77 but if not I would hate to give villain a chance to hit 4th 7 for cheap

Hand 3. I think hero played it ok. No chance of a house so why not take the money available with the nut flush and not give anyone with two pair the chance.

Hand 4. Did you see me lose my sack with this in the Fitz and decide to post it here In the fitz I had a10 with A1010 on board. Got roasted by AA. Anyway I would fear the 1010 here but reckon I would call as villain could have A10

Hand 5. Again good decision to bet. Very few outs to the house so why give cheap card to anyone with straight draw or wrap around draw .

My two cents worth.

lordofthetilt

Hand 1: Seeing the bet on the turn surely wasn't profitable. Perhaps bet the river as the only possible 5 card hand is 9 10 and he could take it right there? Although I do like to bluff crap boards in Omaha.

Hand 2: Tough, you've got to put him on a third seven really. There's the horrible outside chance that he checked quads on the flop but I'd discount that. Realistically you can only be beaten by..the last 7 or an ace or king if either he or the guy behind has pocket aces or kings. They both saw a decent preflop raise your so there's a good chance that they could both be out there. Pot it!!!!(although I'm sure min-raise is the answer for some reason)

Hand 3: One of those cruel/kind flops. No one is really going to see anything as in Omaha someone's nearly always made a flush if it's on. Basically you can bet or check and give poeple a chance to hit on the turn. in omaha I'd fold everything but a fullhouse and better to a bet on a suited board. Perhaps a smaller raise giving someone with trips an incentive to call but if the board pairs on the turn I'd be afriad!!! I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with potting it.

Hnad 4: Flat call. Buttons pot at the start make me think he had either A 10 or pocket 10's there. I really wouldn't be sure which so I'd just flat call. Also I feel that the button checking through the turn where he potted the flop could mean the other 2 10's. If he had A 10 and the lower house on the turn you'd probably pot it when it came into you. Admittedly I've thought about this one, if it happened in a live game I would no doubt be all in over the top with my aces full.

Hand 5: Given the holding here the chances of the villian having anything worthy are slim so any decent raise will probably knock him out. I'd take a while and flat call, then check hoping fora re-raise. You hit the flop and checked, he bluffed at it on the turn cause there's a big pot giving him the odds. You may as well check the river and hope he moves again.

I stand by to be corrected!!!

Lafortezza

careca wrote:

Hand 1. Should not have called the turn bet. Getting two to one pots odds looking for one to the nut flush.

I agree, the flop call is ok, turn call is terrible, I might have been tempted to bluff at the river depending on stack sizes. You'll see flush chasers like this constantly in the Fitz.

careca wrote:

Hand 2. I would repot it. I know you could be up against 77 but if not I would hate to give villain a chance to hit 4th 7 for cheap

I'd raise it but not pot it. If you run into 77 or if he rivers his quads thems the breaks, the only danger card for you on the river are the case 7, an Ace or a King.

careca wrote:

Hand 3. I think hero played it ok. No chance of a house so why not take the money available with the nut flush and not give anyone with two pair the chance.

I'd normally try to get a bit of value on the flop, bet it strongly but not pot it. Hope for a non-pair on the run then pot it. Fingers crossed someone has the K-flush and raises to see if you have the nut-flush.

careca wrote:

Hand 4. Did you see me lose my sack with this in the Fitz and decide to post it here In the fitz I had a10 with A1010 on board. Got roasted by AA. Anyway I would fear the 1010 here but reckon I would call as villain could have A10

I'd be wary of TT, but the check through on the turn would make me suspect 33 instead, he checks to see if AA or TT bets it, or else to maybe try to let someone hit their flush and is silly enough to pay him off.

careca wrote:

Hand 5. Again good decision to bet. Very few outs to the house so why give cheap card to anyone with straight draw or wrap around draw .

I agree, there's so many cards that could come on the river to make a straight without pairing the board. Safe cards are A, K, 9, 8 and there aren't many of them left in the deck. A hand like 56710 has a mountain of out to dog you so best to get the money in asap.

Juan Pablo

(a) The call on 4th street here is loose, he does not have the 14 outs neccesary to call a pot sized bet. In fact, he only has 7 clear nut outs 3-6,9,T spades) that will win him the pot in its entirety, 3 outs that leave a possibility for chop chop (3 remaining T's) and 2 that pair the board (Js Ks). Fold this bad boy and wait for a better position like.....

....(b) where I'd favour the smooth call here. No need to be greedy and drive EP out of the pot. Let him have a chance to contribute some dead money to this one with his 89 or Ahxh. He should know better than to call a first caller of a bet on a paired board on fourth, however, give him a chance anyway.

(c) Seriously strong holding, I'd small bet this one, an "information bet" if you will (or so it appears) and try get a few along for the ride (being cautious of course if any of the remaining 9 board cards appear)

(d) didn't like the check on 4th here from our hero, a 1/4 or 1/2 pot bet was in order. Anyway, reraise here. The button may have AT, 33, KQJ wrap and he's bluffing. He may also have TT but if you worry about quads everytime you make the highest possible boat in Omaha go play Brag.

(e) No problem with this play (although I have suffered a LOT of outdraws this week so the conservative option looks best!!)

Hectorjelly

Hand 1, he should bet either the flop or the turn, calling the bet on the flop is bad against only 1 opponent if your going to play it so passively.

Hand 2, I think you should bet the flop. A person with a 7 will put you on AA or KK and you get to play a big pot. Anyone with any sense will put you on QQ once you check flop and then give a lot of action later.

Hand 3, looks standard

Hand 4, against a very good player you should probably fold, there is only 1 hand he could have here. Raising would be akin to taking money out of your wallet and burning it.

Hand 5, his reraise coupled with the flop check means its unlikely he has a straight draw; he probably has 2 pair or is on a complete bluff. If so he has 0 outs so calling his raise then calling the river is probably optium play, but most of the time he will check the river anyway so it doesnt make much difference.

Hectorjelly

lafortezza wrote:

I'd be wary of TT, but the check through on the turn would make me suspect 33 instead, he checks to see if AA or TT bets it, or else to maybe try to let someone hit their flush and is silly enough to pay him off..

I cant imagine a situation where a good player reraises a raise with the worst fullhouse possible