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And I Thought Petrucci's Rig Was Bad

  • 22-03-2005 12:44am
    #1
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    m4936728-5032.jpg

    That's Billy Corgans... That's just crazy.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    That's not a rig, it's the mothership!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Is it just me or is that a computer connected up to the whole lot? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    thats ridiculous if i had all the money in the world i wouldn't have that much gear :rolleyes: ..

    that does look like a computer wtf???

    check this out http://tnmotorsports.com/Gilmour.htm

    if only!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Billy Corgan? Billy Corgan from the whatchamacallit Pumpkins?

    No offense to anyone, but that moron doesnt know how to play guitar. Simple as that. And when did he start thinking he was Eric Johnson with a rig like that? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    i hear ya ancient1.. he hasn't the skills to justify a rig like that but hey if i had the money and couldn't play i'd have a whopper rig aswell


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Pistol Pete


    Are you guys for real? Have you ever listened to any of Gish/Siamese Dream?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Yeah man i'm for real :)

    I can understand why people see him as a good songwriter, but he will never be a guitarrero.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Pistol Pete


    You mean he'll never write songs with titles like Chromatics From Hell and Raspberry Jam Delta-V or whatever? I can listen to Corgan leads all day, his solos always help to get the song across better rather than being for the sake of showing off, he's a really tasteful player and it's not as if he's a slouch in the speed department when a song requires it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭disgruntled


    Regardless of Billy Corgan's talent, that rig seem a little over the top. That said I'd love to have a go of it, there a nice collection of rack gear there. It's a pitty it's not a better quality photo, I can't see what most of them are. I still can't figure out what that computer is for? :confused: As for Corgan himself, as far as I know Corgan actually played most, if not all of the guitar parts on Siamese Dream, and most of Gish if I'm not mistaken. I don't thing Iha really started contributing until Mellon Collie and even then everything still seemed to have Corgan stamp so to speak on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    You mean he'll never write songs with titles like Chromatics From Hell and Raspberry Jam Delta-V or whatever?

    No, i dont want to equate shredding with good guitar playing, that's beside the point. The reason i used Eric Johnson as an example above is not because EJ is a technically brilliant guitarist, but because he's known for outrageous rigs, having those "dog-ears" and being very picky about gear and, more importantly, tone.
    Billy Corgan has nothing to offer to me, unfortunately. I didnt dismiss him straight away, coz i give everyone and everything a fair listening chance, but that guy just never did anything for me. Simply average at best. In my opinion of course.

    His style doesnt rock my boat at all, or, as Doc J puts it, it doesnt jangle my balls! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Pistol Pete


    Well that's fair enough, I wasn't really paying much attention to the ridiculous guitar rig because I was too busy frothing at the mouth because of the BC comment :)

    Iha irritates me though, such an effects junkie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Ahhh I've a lot of time for Billy Corgan, anyone who claims to have learned guitar by feeding back over Black Sabbath records is a good egg in my book.

    Just recalled an interesting thing about Eric Johnson and his "dog-ears", he claims to be able to hear the difference in tone depending on what battery is in his pedals, to the extent where he can actually tell you what brand of battery is in the pedal through tone alone. ****ing A! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    PP, i am usually vulgar, so if i call someone a moron or motherfcuker it can mean either moron or motherfcuker or simply dude. Hence the "no offense" disclaimer.
    I really doubt that BC uses half that rig - he shouldnt have to, tbh.

    As for EJ, i have a diagram of his rig somewhere at home. It's perverse - he's amassed a priceless collection of vintage Fender amps alone for his clean tone. But i guess if EJ says it sounds good then it does, right? :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Gentlemen, behold!

    m4936720-5189.jpg

    Billy Gibbon's Setup

    ericjohnson_2001.gif

    Eric Johnson's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Billy Gibbons or Billy Corgan? :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Gibbons, of ZZ Top. Just showing off big rigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    i'm only messin ;)

    Did you know that Billy Gibbons has a lot of "meat" scooped out of the body of his Les Paul to reduce the weight?

    Have to find that article!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Lots of people do that actually. Les Pauls are heavy bastards after all. I'm still in serious pain after wearing my basswood guitar for two hours on Sunday :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭DiamondJQuimby


    feylya wrote:
    Gibbons, of ZZ Top. Just showing off big rigs.


    Gibbons sound is awesome in my book if I could get his sound .........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭fortuneg


    feylya wrote:
    Gentlemen, behold!

    m4936720-5189.jpg

    Billy Gibbon's Setup

    ericjohnson_2001.gif

    Eric Johnson's

    :rolleyes: Jaysus, they're nothing compared to Corgans!


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Considering Corgan has almost every unit quintupled, I say they match up fairly well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭disgruntled


    I've just been trying to work out what he's got in that rig. I can make out:

    2 Diezel VH4 heads
    3 Mesa Boogie Strategy 500 Power Amps
    3 Furman power condtioners
    2 Rockman MIDI Octopus
    2 Lexicon MPXG2?
    2 Eventide Ultra Harmonizers?
    5 Digitech Valve Fx?
    2 Matchless ????
    2 Crate GX15R????
    Rocktron All Access midi controller

    Im sure Im missing a few and have some wrong but anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    raspberry jam delta-v!! now that has to be the funnest song to play! i play that in my satch/vai set, i must do another gig soon :cool:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    -=al=- wrote:
    raspberry jam delta-v!! now that has to be the funnest song to play! i play that in my satch/vai set, i must do another gig soon :cool:

    That was random...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Pistol Pete


    Wanker ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    charming....

    + yeh its only cause someone mentioned it on the last page it had nothing to do with the Rigs! :| oh well but its a really really good song


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    You're just spamming ffs. Stop it!


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