Has anyone else noticed this?

Romo

I've seen quiet a few young Eastern-European kids out and about in the city center by themselves at night. Last night I saw two of them trying to buy alcohol in an off-licence. Wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this and could it be a bigger concern in the future?

crazy angel

lots of kids try to get away with this!

Crucifix

crazy angel wrote:

lots of kids try to get away with this!

God, I hate going to the off licence on a friday or saturday evening. Accosted on all sides by shifty looking teens.

crazy angel

but seriously, its not unusual! its only worrying if the were actually sold alcohol.
and even then it wouldnt bother me!

Chinafoot

you may notice the Eastern European kids but theres plenty of Irish kids at it too.

this is almost as good as the "are there many Nigerians who are criminals" or whatever the fúck it was.

snappieT

I'm still 17 and got asked for ID when I was buying a litre of vodka yesterday. Showed my (really badly DIY done) fake ID and sorted. And I mean REALLY BADLY DONE.

Jonny Arson

Romo wrote:

I've seen quiet a few young Eastern-European kids out and about in the city center by themselves at night. Last night I saw two of them trying to buy alcohol in an off-licence. Wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this and could it be a bigger concern in the future?

Ooooh absolutely shocking! :rolleyes:

Have you had your head buried in the sand for the past number of years. Kids aged 15-16 have been getting served in off-licenses for years. It doesn't shock me anymore.

OLDYELLAR

Romo wrote:

I've seen quiet a few young Eastern-European kids out and about in the city center by themselves at night. Last night I saw two of them trying to buy alcohol in an off-licence. Wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this and could it be a bigger concern in the future?

Irish kids do this every weekend , I know 14 year olds that get served and get hammered at the weekends , its terrible alright that they are getting served but beleive me its not just Eastern Europeans , .

Shabadu

Romo wrote:

could it be a bigger concern in the future?

Clearly someone is going to lose an eye.

Caesar_Bojangle

My 13 year old girlfriend gets served all the time. It's shocking really.

StupidLikeAFox

Romo wrote:

I've seen quiet a few young Eastern-European kids out and about in the city center by themselves at night. Last night I saw two of them trying to buy alcohol in an off-licence. Wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this and could it be a bigger concern in the future?

Probably best if ya stay inside on paddys day......

dcarroll

Caesar_Bojangle wrote:

My 13 year old girlfriend gets served all the time. It's shocking really.

What's shocking, that she gets served or shes your girlfriend

rugbug86

i was just thinking that!!!

eastern european kids drink from about 12 at home, and there's no real alcohol laws in europe. legal age is 16 in most countries, even england (but only for beer or cider, but its better than here!) so it wouldnt be unusual for them to look for alcohol, we're just backwards about our alcohol laws.

Rhyme

Children are getting younger these days... but seriously look at France, child of 12 having a glass of wine @_@

Pet

Rhyme wrote:

Children are getting younger these days... but seriously look at France, child of 12 having a glass of wine @_@

And France doesn't have a problem with underage drinking, because that fosters a healthy attitude to alcohol..

Tar.Aldarion

lol @ look at france.
they have a glass of wine at dinner with their family omg the problems that will ensue jeez

Rhyme

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

lol @ look at france.
they have a glass of wine at dinner with their family omg the problems that will ensue jeez

As far as ive seen they dont have much problems in the house at all, kids are taught to respect alcohol in that way whereas over here its just a gulp 'n' go kinda thing... and wine for the kids builds up a healthy resistence to it too.

Ps. Also in France outside of major population centres there is basically no night life

the_syco

Rhyme wrote:

As far as ive seen they dont have much problems in the house at all, kids are taught to respect alcohol in that way whereas over here its just a gulp 'n' go kinda thing... and wine for the kids builds up a healthy resistence to it too.

Ps. Also in France outside of major population centres there is basically no night life

French students were in the house I was in, down in Carlow. Party = some music & as much drink as possible. They love the pubs and nightclubs. Seemingly its waaaay better than France.

crazy angel

ok so the question is, why did Romo fel the need to mention that they were
Eastern-European??

the_syco

After a while, you don't notice the noraml kids...

FX Meister

rugbug86 wrote:

i was just thinking that!!!

eastern european kids drink from about 12 at home, and there's no real alcohol laws in europe. legal age is 16 in most countries, even england (but only for beer or cider, but its better than here!) so it wouldnt be unusual for them to look for alcohol, we're just backwards about our alcohol laws.

16 in the UK, are you sure?

Simi

Yes a wave of Eastern European children are going to come and take the place of Irish born children buying drink in offlicenses....you know what its just easier to call you stupid. And what really annoys me is that it was easier to buy drink when I was 15, than it is now i'm only a few months from being 18.

Creamy Goodness

Simi wrote:

Yes a wave of Eastern European children are going to come and take the place of Irish born children buying drink in offlicenses....you know what its just easier to call you stupid. And what really annoys me is that it was easier to buy drink when I was 15, than it is now i'm only a few months from being 18.

yeh i found that too simi, it was harder to get served just before 18 than any other time.

what i've found now is that now i'm 18 they don't look for id anymore, i just wanna shove it their face from the looks they give me

Ajnag

Those kids are part of a massive eastern european COMMIE conpiriscy!!!

Those evil commies have not gone away you know!
Good work citizen.

ziggy

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D!ve^Bomb!

rugbug86 wrote:

i was just thinking that!!!

eastern european kids drink from about 12 at home, and there's no real alcohol laws in europe. legal age is 16 in most countries, even england (but only for beer or cider, but its better than here!) so it wouldnt be unusual for them to look for alcohol, we're just backwards about our alcohol laws.

the legal age to drink alcohol in England is 18

D!ve^Bomb!

Caesar_Bojangle wrote:

My 13 year old girlfriend gets served all the time. It's shocking really.

going completely off topic, but do you mind me asking how old you are?

Romo

crazy angel wrote:

ok so the question is, why did Romo fel the need to mention that they were
Eastern-European??

It wasn't a crypto xenophobic remark. Just as Irish people made a life for themselves for god knows how long in the UK, I support extending that same opportunity to Eastern Europeans and equally I am opposed to the constructive deportation of Irish born citizens.

Its just that over the past few months I've noticed quiet a few Eastern European children of school going age on the streets during school hours and late at night (Its been mentioned to me by several people as well).

The reason I mentioned that they were Eastern European is that most of these children, unlike Irish children, have little or no English. So any exclusion from the education system is compounded. Are measures in place to teach these children English and integrate them into our education system? Or are we going to have a Keelin Shanley hand-wringing piece on Prime Time 18 months from now on how X (hundred/thousand ?) children have fallen between our education system and their native education systems?

Caesar_Bojangle

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

going completely off topic, but do you mind me asking how old you are?

43 in June

gilbert

it sounds like bad news for the public

D!ve^Bomb!

Caesar_Bojangle wrote:

43 in June

phew!