Bellamy

eirebhoy

Does he have a screw loose or is he just a complete gobshíte? Since he has arrived in Scotland he has added to his bad reputation and certainly shows how right Souness was.

Against Clyde in the cup he was whispering in the players ears boasting about how much he earns. He also said to one of the players that he'll be giving him a call to mow his lawn soon.

Yesterday Celtic played Hibs, Bellamy had a good game, got MOM and scored. After the game they were all shaking hands and Bellamy's ex-teammate Gary Caldwell went up to shake his hand and Bellamy refused to shake.

I've mentioned 2 or 3 other similar incidents in previous threads on this forum including phoning Dean Kiely with abuse and telling Boumsong he had joined a **** club. Plus the fact that he feigned injury, denied it and then called his manager a lier live on Sky Sports. I don't know which of the above two I'd put him under, swaying towards the screw loose as how the hell anyone with a brain would do the things he does is bewildering.

I couldn't care that he is a Celtic player, can't stand fans defending their players when they are clearly idiots. Palace chairman, Simon Jordon, got it right last week when he said:
“I would strangle him with his own tongue”.

Big Nelly

Wat about him donating his shirt to the family of a Celtic supporter that died this week???? that wasnt plastered on the web or papers!!!

eirebhoy

You can't be serious Big Nelly?

Ok then, lets let him off with everything now that he donated his shirt. He's a good lad.

Big Nelly

eirebhoy wrote:

You can't be serious Big Nelly?

Ok then, lets let him off with everything now that he donated his shirt. He's a good lad.

My point is the papers only come up with the bad stories! has anyone confirmed about the Clyde players? from wat I have heard he is being accussed......

I know the manager of Hibs has come out and said he has had no problem with Bellamy and he came up and shook hands with him after the game...cud be just Caldwell is a sore loser!!

The Englishman said after the match: "I don't mind Craig Bellamy. I've just been speaking to him so I don't have any problem with Craig at all.

"I don't know what happened at the end so you're asking the wrong man, to be fair. Football is a passionate game and players get caught up in it sometimes."

Players like Bellamy/Savage will always be in the news because of the type of players they are....but how many PL manager would like to see them in there side than playing against them?????

eirebhoy

Big Nelly wrote:

My point is the papers only come up with the bad stories! has anyone confirmed about the Clyde players? from wat I have heard he is being accussed......

Clyde player Darren Sheridan came out and said it about the gardening. Tony Cascarino also slated him over it and Bellamy never denied it.

Big Nelly

eirebhoy wrote:

Clyde player Darren Sheridan came out and said it about the gardening. Tony Cascarino also slated him over it and Bellamy never denied it.

Ok thats a bit stupid of him but you have to admit its funny! he winds players up! so does Savage and Dickov is another one.....wonder wat they say to players during a game....I wouldnt mind what big Tony has to say!!!! did he get a passport yet to fly anywhere?

Sure even when I was playing football when I was younger I was given tips on how to wind up players to try and get them off the game

*keep tipping the other player on back of leg throughout the game.....annoys the f**k out of you, you cant concentrate then*

The Muppet

I don't see much wrong with winding opponents up verbally before or during a game. It's a step up from the Vinnny jones method anyway{poor gazza}. It is an established part of the game so I don't see why any player in particular should be castigated for it.

Not Shaking hands after a game is bad sportsmanship but maybe there was an incident in the game or history between the two players that led to that.

eirebhoy

Don't think it was anything to do with the past:

"I went to shake his hand. I thought he was terrific but he refused to shake hands with me," said Caldwell. "It is a disappointing when a fellow professional won't shake your hand.

"It's not got anything do with anything in the past. You'll have to ask him for an answer as to why he didn't want to."

I don't know, Its fine winding players up but i just think Bellamy is the type that really means it. He thinks he is more important than everyone else because he earns more money. There are ways of putting players off but Vinny Jones did it the right way and would say things he'd be able to laugh about with his teammates afterwards. I doubt many Celtic players found what Craig said funny.

cournioni

eirebhoy wrote:

I don't know, Its fine winding players up but i just think Bellamy is the type that really means it. He thinks he is more important than everyone else because he earns more money.

In all fairness. How do you know if the lad actually means it? I assume you don't know him personally so I don't think that you should be making judgements like that.

eirebhoy

PORNAPSTER wrote:

In all fairness. How do you know if the lad actually means it? I assume you don't know him personally so I don't think that you should be making judgements like that.

I said I "think".

BaZmO*

I think this is a bit of a non issue tbh. Everybody knows that Bellamy is a clown. Boasting to other players that he is somehow a cut above the rest when he couldn't make it in the EPL himself and was kicked up to Scotland. Hardly something worth boasting imo.

And with regards to players winding each other up, it's part of the game and it happens all the time. Didn't hear too many people complaining when Graham Kavanagh stood on the side line screaming abuse at the Swiss players. (or at least I think it was the Swiss players)

B.

LegacyUser

Bellamy does seem like a ****ing idiot in all fairness. I mean the whistle was gone at the end of the match when he refused to shake your mans hand so he was not trying to put his player off during the match...he actually is a ****ing gob****e tbh.

Badabing

I don't like players being prats and petty but if he wins us the league and cup with his goals he can do what he wants.

A Dub in Glasgo

eirebhoy wrote:

Does he have a screw loose or is he just a complete gobshíte?

He may be both or he may not be any. What I do know is the press here in Scotland are definitely out ot get him. Not to mention the issue of the police looking for him for an incident in Glasgow when he was up in Inverness with Celtic!! This just proves that he is a watched man.

Since he has arrived in Scotland he has added to his bad reputation

I do not think he has

and certainly shows how right Souness was.

Far too early to even say that!!

Against Clyde in the cup he was whispering in the players ears boasting about how much he earns. He also said to one of the players that he'll be giving him a call to mow his lawn soon.

It is called an old fashioned wind up routine

Yesterday Celtic played Hibs, Bellamy had a good game, got MOM and scored.

Bellamy had his best game for Celtic and scored a peach. Overall, Celtic were fantastic yesterday and we have really set ourselves up for the league.

After the game they were all shaking hands and Bellamy's ex-teammate Gary Caldwell went up to shake his hand and Bellamy refused to shake.

Obviously heat of the moment stuff, maybe Bellamy was still feeling the effects of being booted all over the park by Caldwell and others. A non-issue in my opinion.

I've mentioned 2 or 3 other similar incidents in previous threads on this forum including phoning Dean Kiely with abuse and telling Boumsong he had joined a **** club. Plus the fact that he feigned injury, denied it and then called his manager a lier live on Sky Sports. I don't know which of the above two I'd put him under, swaying towards the screw loose as how the hell anyone with a brain would do the things he does is bewildering.

I couldn't care that he is a Celtic player, can't stand fans defending their players when they are clearly idiots. Palace chairman, Simon Jordon, got it right last week when he said:
“I would strangle him with his own tongue”.

You obviously dislike him and you appear to be reading too many tabloids about his behaviour. As long as Bellamy plays like he did yesterday, I couldn't care how many players he winds up or if he does not shake hands with an opponent.

cournioni

BaZmO* wrote:

Didn't hear too many people complaining when Graham Kavanagh stood on the side line screaming abuse at the Swiss players. (or at least I think it was the Swiss players)

Haha... That was funny. I think it was directed at the Yakin brothers. "Yez fúckin ****" x10.

eirebhoy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

You obviously dislike him and you appear to be reading too many tabloids about his behaviour.

I'd love to see where it appears that I have been reading too many tabloids. The Clyde incident was quotes from Sheridan. The handshake was on camera, I don't see how you can defend him in that situation. He was shaking a few hands, ex-teammate came over and he just ignored him. The Boumsong incident was what Souness said and the Dean Kiely incident was on Jimmy Hill's show (there's a lot more to it, some on camera, but I won't go into it). The feigning injury is public knowledge at this stage. No tabloid reading at all to back up my posts.

Forget about the Clyde incident since a lot of you say it was mind games (TBF, if we couldn't beat Clyde without playing mind games we didn't deserve to be in the cup). He's still an idiot imo and the main reason for this is his interview on Sky where I believed him and then it came out that it was total rubbish. He lied to millions of people on TV expecting to get the Newcastle fans to get Souness the sack (IMO).

If he keeps up scoring and playing like yesterday I'll quite happily see Celtic pay the £5m for him btw. Everyone has idiot's at they're club, to many people don't like to admit it though.

Its amazing how bias effects people. Balde was crap when he was in Middlesboro getting a medical, he signs a new contract and everyone loves him.

Töpher

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Haha... That was funny. I think it was directed at the Yakin brothers. "Yez fúckin ****" x10.

Yeah, that was when Hakan Yakin left us cornered after we put the ball out so one of their players could get treatment.

A Dub in Glasgo

The tabloids (from what I can see) are the ones who are blowing all this stuff (Clyde & Hibs incidents) out of proportion. The broadsheets just mention the fact.

He is not the first 'idiot' footballer an he certainly will not be the last. He has not assaulted anyone and these things you mention are in the 'minor' category of idiotness

Harry2001

Bellamy is just a cu**, it's as simple as that really

Plenty of them about

Davey Devil

I really can't understand how anyone can defend Bellemy, he is just total scum. If I was Celtic supporter I'd be embarrassed by his behaviour. He is represting the club on the field and should act accordingly. Instead he shames the great history of the jersey by acting like a complete knobhead on the field. There's no excuse for his behaviour, especially not shaking hands Caldwell. Scum.

cournioni

Davey Devil wrote:

I really can't understand how anyone can defend Bellemy, he is just total scum. If I was Celtic supporter I'd be embarrassed by his behaviour. He is represting the club on the field and should act accordingly. Instead he shames the great history of the jersey by acting like a complete knobhead on the field. There's no excuse for his behaviour, especially not shaking hands Caldwell. Scum.

:eek:

I think scum is a pretty strong word to be using for Bellamy in all fairness. He winds people up and he gets frustrated, nothing more. I could think of alot worse, one of them being Francesco Totti.

WhiteWashMan

Big Nelly wrote:

Wat about him donating his shirt to the family of a Celtic supporter that died this week???? that wasnt plastered on the web or papers!!!

excellent, they can wear it to the funeral so?

i mean seriously, what has donating a shirt got to do with belaamys antics?

PHB

He thinks he is better than he is, and when other people dont show him the same respect he shows himself he gets angry, cause he is confused.
Needs a decent manager to kick him in the ass until he is done what he's told

Chucky the tree

never a fan of his, always though he was a muppet.

Personally i dont believe he said the stuff about money as "mind games". I think he did it cos hes a cocky little ****er who thinks he's above most people. Ian wright played the mind game properly, whipsering in defender ears how he was going to score etc.

Not shakiing hands with some is childish and petty aswell.

Big Nelly

WhiteWashMan wrote:

excellent, they can wear it to the funeral so?

i mean seriously, what has donating a shirt got to do with belaamys antics?

Its a show of support for the family!!! how many clubs/players do anything when a supporter dies???? wat else can he do? supporter is dead but at least it shows to the family that the club there son supported cares for there fans! dont ever see any of Arsenal/Utd players coming on tele and doing the same

everyone seems to be calling Bellamy names but I like the player! anyone actually watch and see wat he can do on the pitch?? or are you just reading the Sun and throw out your opinions! e.g. calling him "scum!"

Can do stupid things but he is still young!! I think O'Neill can work with him the way Hughes could.....they understand he can be abit of a pri*k at times but he makes up for it with the way he plays! watched parts of the game on Sunday and he was great!! but then Celtic had a great game....there was alot of interviews on Sky after the Souness interview and I didnt see many managers saying bad things about him!!! so he cant be the devil!!

WhiteWashMan

Big Nelly wrote:

Its a show of support for the family!!! how many clubs/players do anything when a supporter dies???? wat else can he do? supporter is dead but at least it shows to the family that the club there son supported cares for there fans! dont ever see any of Arsenal/Utd players coming on tele and doing the same

everyone seems to be calling Bellamy names but I like the player! anyone actually watch and see wat he can do on the pitch?? or are you just reading the Sun and throw out your opinions! e.g. calling him "scum!"

Can do stupid things but he is still young!! I think O'Neill can work with him the way Hughes could.....they understand he can be abit of a pri*k at times but he makes up for it with the way he plays! watched parts of the game on Sunday and he was great!! but then Celtic had a great game....there was alot of interviews on Sky after the Souness interview and I didnt see many managers saying bad things about him!!! so he cant be the devil!!

obviously you missed all the antics at newcastle so.

as for giving a shirt to a family, i really dont see how that makes him a good bloke. hell, ive donated a load of my old clothes to my little brother. does that make me a saint?
how exactly does bellamy care for the supporters when he has been at the club for 6 weeks? good close friends were they?
come on, youre looking for anything to defend a player who is consistantly causing trouble.

and please, if youre going to insult me, do a decent job of it, instead of calling me a sun reader.

Big Nelly

WhiteWashMan wrote:

obviously you missed all the antics at newcastle so.

as for giving a shirt to a family, i really dont see how that makes him a good bloke. hell, ive donated a load of my old clothes to my little brother. does that make me a saint?
how exactly does bellamy care for the supporters when he has been at the club for 6 weeks? good close friends were they?
come on, youre looking for anything to defend a player who is consistantly causing trouble.

and please, if youre going to insult me, do a decent job of it, instead of calling me a sun reader.

If you read it I wasnt calling you a sun reader! the next paragraph was to do with the people calling names!

Your not actually making a point....just bringing up stuff about yourself....Im talking about footballers!! my point was which other player have you ever seen donating a shirt??? dont have to be friends but it shows the players/club are supporting the family in there time of grief!!!

I did see everything with the Souness but he isnt the first player to fall out with him......how many Irish player careers did he mess up when he took over at Blackburn??? also David Dunn was another player!!!! who else?? cant remember but there has been a long list!!! so why not ask why does Souness fall out with half the players at the club instead of why Bellamy fell out with him!!

eirebhoy

Falling out with a manager is no excuse for some of the things Bellamy did at Newcastle. "My parents are alcoholics, gives me an excuse to go rob a car".

cournioni

eirebhoy wrote:

Falling out with a manager is no excuse for some of the things Bellamy did at Newcastle. "My parents are alcoholics, gives me an excuse to go rob a car".

What did he do apart from the obvious stuff with Souness? Sure Souness fell out with Cole, Yorke, Dunn and numerous others does that make them all scum?

A Dub in Glasgo

Why are you so worried about what Bellamy did at another club? I am more worried about how he fits into the Celtic team and whether he is a disruptive influence to the Celtic team. Assuming Martin O'Neill plays the right formation, Bellamy will fit quite well into the Celtic team and we should overhaul the Rangers lead with the games in hand. I have seen nothing to suggest that Bellamy is or will be a disruptive influence in the Celtic team.

I couldn't give a flying duck about the shenanigans going on in the past tense at another club (Newcastle).

WhiteWashMan

Big Nelly wrote:

If you read it I wasnt calling you a sun reader! the next paragraph was to do with the people calling names!

Your not actually making a point....just bringing up stuff about yourself....Im talking about footballers!! my point was which other player have you ever seen donating a shirt??? dont have to be friends but it shows the players/club are supporting the family in there time of grief!!!

I did see everything with the Souness but he isnt the first player to fall out with him......how many Irish player careers did he mess up when he took over at Blackburn??? also David Dunn was another player!!!! who else?? cant remember but there has been a long list!!! so why not ask why does Souness fall out with half the players at the club instead of why Bellamy fell out with him!!

the week that portsmouth beat spurs at their place, a young lad died of lukemia. portsmouth dedicated the game and much of the gate and held a minutes silence and put him in the news.
i think thats more of an effort than some pretentious and precocious striker giving away a used football shirt. that takes no thought at all, and only sounds like some sort of publicity stunt to be honest by his agent. bellamy has never given a monkeys about anyone bar himself.

look, you obviously fancy the guy, and im not going to try and change your mind. i simply dont give a monkeys. i think hes an idiot for his carry on at newcaslte, for his disrespectful attitude towards his club, his team mates and his manager.
i dont think hes a scumbag, but i do think he is an idiot.

A Dub in Glasgo

WhiteWashMan wrote:

the week that portsmouth beat spurs at their place, a young lad died of lukemia. portsmouth dedicated the game and much of the gate and held a minutes silence and put him in the news.
i think thats more of an effort than some pretentious and precocious striker giving away a used football shirt. that takes no thought at all, and only sounds like some sort of publicity stunt to be honest by his agent. bellamy has never given a monkeys about anyone bar himself.

This is not a 'my dad is bigger than your dad' game. Celtic were not playing at home and could not do what Portsmouth done. Bellamy deicated his shirt to the family. A shirt where he scored his 1st league goal in Scotland and where he got the man of the match award. If you want to think that his agent put him up for it for PR, that is of course, your perogative. I met im with my 2 sons when the team bus came back to Celtic Park on Sunday and he could not have been nicer, he and the rest of the team signed a new football I had just bought in the Superstore.

eirebhoy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Why are you so worried about what Bellamy did at another club? I am more worried about how he fits into the Celtic team and whether he is a disruptive influence to the Celtic team. Assuming Martin O'Neill plays the right formation, Bellamy will fit quite well into the Celtic team and we should overhaul the Rangers lead with the games in hand. I have seen nothing to suggest that Bellamy is or will be a disruptive influence in the Celtic team.

I couldn't give a flying duck about the shenanigans going on in the past tense at another club (Newcastle).

Well, I didn't open this thread because I was worried. There is no way Bellamy could distrupt the likes of Sutton, Hartson, Thompson, Lennon, Petrov and all the other experienced players which Newcastle were lacking. I opened it to see if people actually think he's the full shilling.

I don't understand when people on here can think he's alright when even his teammates are questioning him.
''I've been here four years and you simply can't go around like he does and say the things he does, I'll be having a word.'' - Hartson

MON's comments were hardly encouraging either.

I'll let it rest then and see if he is a changed man. Not shaking hands alone makes him an idiot to me the same way Totti is a scumbag for spitting.

WhiteWashMan

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

blah

yawn.

TwoShedsJackson

WhiteWashMan wrote:

hell, ive donated a load of my old clothes to my little brother. does that make me a saint?

GIven some of the stuff you wear, that would be a no

A shirt where he scored his 1st league goal in Scotland and where he got the man of the match award.

And it's so hard to score in the Scottish league of course... Bottom line, Bellamy is a twat and he's not going to change.

Big Nelly

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Why are you so worried about what Bellamy did at another club? I am more worried about how he fits into the Celtic team and whether he is a disruptive influence to the Celtic team. Assuming Martin O'Neill plays the right formation, Bellamy will fit quite well into the Celtic team and we should overhaul the Rangers lead with the games in hand. I have seen nothing to suggest that Bellamy is or will be a disruptive influence in the Celtic team.

I couldn't give a flying duck about the shenanigans going on in the past tense at another club (Newcastle).

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Exactly! I think that Bellamy will be a great player for Celtic.....he has already played numerous times to great affect with Hartson for Wales.....he has plenty of PL experience and has also played in UEFA and CL's.......I cant see Martin O'Neill taking any s**t!! he has already said that Celtic is the sort of club he would like to move to with CL football each year!!! 5mil for him would be a bargain!!

Good young player and showed at the weekend he can fit into Celtics systems!!

look, you obviously fancy the guy, and im not going to try and change your mind. i simply dont give a monkeys. i think hes an idiot for his carry on at newcaslte, for his disrespectful attitude towards his club, his team mates and his manager.
i dont think hes a scumbag, but i do think he is an idiot.

We'll agree to disagree!

A Dub in Glasgo

WhiteWashMan wrote:

yawn.

Edited to protect the sensitivities of WWM

WhiteWashMan

that look s like a direct insult to me.
can we ban this poster?

A Dub in Glasgo

It is not a personal insult....

This post is inane

Of course, if you feel it is offensive, I will edit my post. Is the following a personal insult in your book?

1. Replace quoted text with blah
2. Put the following comment as a response 'yawn'

LizardKing

In fairness WWM , your first post with the "blah" was as much of an insult as A Dub in Glasgo's post , seen as you started it maybe you can ban yourself too ...

WhiteWashMan

yawn.

look, if you cant accept that other people find a player that plays in your team to be an offensive tyke, then go to some other forum, but stop saying the same things over and over again.
we've heard them, and no matter what why you put the argument, its still the same thing. i have no idea why you continually feel the need to try and change everyones view?

and yawn means im bored of reading the same thing over again.
do you find it offensive?

talla

Harry 2001 banned for a week for C**t comment. No abuse or personal insults is permitted against any other boards members / Groups of supporters or fans or Sports persoanlities.

Think before you press that reply button!!

BaZmO*

talla wrote:

Harry 2001 banned for a week for scum comment. No abuse or personal insults is permitted against any other boards members / Groups of supporters or fans or Sports persoanlities.

Think before you press that reply button!!

Hmmm... you can't call somebody scum but you can call them a cúnt? Interesting!!!

B.