The Internet.

Suaimhneach

Ok. Now, this I'm jus gonna hash out my thoughts here, and if I come up with anything good we can discuss it, or you can mock it. Whatever.

Right. Do ya ever get when your talking to someone about the internet, and they just dont get it. At all. They either think it's full of peados and old men, which I mean, it is. But they don't get this part of it. The part where you talk and learn and laugh. There is so much to boards for example. The internet is an escape for our every thought. It is something that we can't get anywhere else. And yet, there are people who jus consider people who use message baords, geeks.

And then there is the other end of it. You could be out in a bar with mates, meet up with some of their mates, and get chatting to a stranger as ya do, and then next thing you know, your talkin about your fav band, and their website, and "Oh, you're on the message board, what's your username?!". How small the world can be sometimes, even in a place like this.

Also, when it comes to chat rooms, or irc. People say, like when they slag etc, and other people don't get it. "You're taking the internet too serious, your gh3y". Or, "Don't take what people say on the internet serious". That one bugs me. I mean, "the internet is not real". Yes. It. Is. Do my words not carry any weight? I think they do. I mean, besides general boards when there is obvious pisstake. If I say to someone online, in irc, I like Monty Python, is it not real? Or if I have a chat with someone, and have copious amounts in common with them, does it not mean that I could get on with them in real life. Why is, in most cases, the internet any less "real" than most other ways of communication?

For example, if you are cahtting and you get to private messaging someone, couldn;t that be compared, quite well to texting? I have a girl mate who texted this bloke lots recently, then they started going out. But before that happened when I asked how things were goin, she started showing me text messages. Now, besides being overly girly, and silly, what is different from that and a pm excepting the fact that pm is instant and obviously better.

Also, the internet culture. 1 4/\/\ 7|-|3 |_337 7B|-|

For those who can't figure that out, it says I am the leet to be honest. I don't know what I want to say about the culture, accept taht I like it. And that I don't think there is much wrong with it. I mean, accept when it's anal and people over use it. But the people who get it. When you get it with them. That's cooler than most things the rest of the world has to offer, cuz there is very little that so many people at any one time, can get.

That was in part inspired by your main man, DeV, who gave a talk in DCU recently. It covered much more than the ****e I jus said, and course it was funnier. But that's a lot of what I thought about of late.

Crucifix

Jesjes wrote:

DeV, who gave a talk in DCU recently.

KHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!
Damn, I can't believe I missed that.

Mercury_Tilt

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Beruthiel

you should start charging him Mercie!

Suaimhneach

Mercury_Tilt wrote:

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I had intended to compare the internet more socaically the with regards to it as a technology thing. Yes, we can communicate better when we have better means too. But. Isn't there more to it than that.

People understand email, but they dont use the internet, if ya get me. Like, anyone can be a very regular email user, but never ever post on a board, or use a chat room, or look at information on the net. So, yeah people "get" that its faster etc, but they don't get the "it" I was tlakin bout.

dahamsta

Jesjes wrote:

if I come up with anything good we can discuss it

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simu

Jesjes wrote:

People understand email, but they dont use the internet, if ya get me. Like, anyone can be a very regular email user, but never ever post on a board, or use a chat room, or look at information on the net. So, yeah people "get" that its faster etc, but they don't get the "it" I was tlakin bout.

I know what you mean. Many people I know would think it was very weird/dodgy that I've gone to boards events to meet people from the interweb. they're missing out!

stagolee

simu wrote:

I know what you mean. Many people I know would think it was very weird/dodgy that I've gone to boards events to meet people from the interweb. they're missing out!

people can only base their assumptions on what they've heard, and the news is always full of stories about the dangers of chatrooms to childeren.
theres no shock value in a story about an ineresting and usefull resource for people to talk and share information so nobody hears about it

jor el

stagolee wrote:

theres no shock value in a story about an ineresting and usefull resource for people to talk and share information so nobody hears about it

Where's that then?

joejoem

http://www.darkwing-squad.com/new/x...evsinternet.wmv


This should answer all your questions

stagolee

jor el wrote:

Where's that then?

ummmm... i dunno ive never heard about it

steveland?

stagolee wrote:

people can only base their assumptions on what they've heard, and the news is always full of stories about the dangers of chatrooms to childeren.
theres no shock value in a story about an ineresting and usefull resource for people to talk and share information so nobody hears about it

Tis like that Bill Hicks sketch about there being only negative drug stories on the news. No positive stories

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

Bottle_of_Smoke

Yeah my parents have serious hang ups about the internet. All I pretty much do is Boards\MSN\music Websites so when they come over and read my msn conversations I naturally close them. They flip out and won't accept that reading what I'm saying is the same as listening in to a phone call.

Different generations, they never used computers so they can't use the internet, therefore all they hear about it is the paedophile stories and other negativities. Don't blame them too much, they should be less ignorant though.

Rabies

I few weeks ago my uncle (58) bought a himself a 2nd hand comp. Set it up himself and got someone to get him online. That night he phoned me up and asked to call down and help him with sort out his comp, having internet probs or something.
The problem was he didn't know what to do on the interent. What it was. Or how to use it for information. He had no real comprehension of what the internet is.
I pointed him towards Boards.ie and told him to browse through the forums for a while. All he uses now is msn messanger to talk to friends and family around the world.

steveland?

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote:

Yeah my parents have serious hang ups about the internet. All I pretty much do is Boards\MSN\music Websites so when they come over and read my msn conversations I naturally close them. They flip out and won't accept that reading what I'm saying is the same as listening in to a phone call.

This is something else that pisses me off too. My parents must think all I do on the computer is look at porn cos every time they come near me i just switch over to my winamp window or something. Must look very suspicious altogether. I just hate people reading what I'm writing (although I must admit it's a little bit of a stupid hangup when it's a post to a public message board like here) but, yeh, it's annoying when you're trying to have a conversation on MSN

BlitzKrieg

the internet is the worlds largest university



....except there are no set lectures and there are no degrees.

embee

At work this week, I saw a car with the registration number "99 D 1337". I smiled, but I felt alone. My "real life" workmates haven't a fúkking clue.

Pet

BlitzKrieg wrote:

the internet is the worlds largest university



....except there are no set lectures and there are no degrees.

I'd pretty much agree with that. I mean, sure there's porn, and random useless discussions about Mulder being Sherlock Holmes' reincarnation, but aside from that I've definitely learned more from the internet than I would in a year of school. Things/concepts like wikipedia outweigh all the crap on the internet.

I never watch tv, I spend my 1 or two hours a day (sometimes more) on the net instead; it's just as entertaining and much less passive. A lot of people don't *get* it though; they see it as somewhere to
a)shop
b)look at porn
c)talk to paedophiles

They don't see the whole message board/irc culture that's there. It's their loss though.

Gone West

of course you never hear on the news of how great a message board is, or how it helps people understand certain things, etc.

All you ever hear about on the news is stuff about some pedo creep or whatever.

News-media has been and probably always will be about the bad stuff

SantaHoe

embee wrote:

At work this week, I saw a car with the registration number "99 D 1337". I smiled, but I felt alone. My "real life" workmates haven't a fúkking clue.

Your workmates are such cl00l3ss n00bars, I bet they can even sp33k l337. :rolleyes:
That's pretty cool though, I wonder did the driver do that on purpose... afaik, you can wait to register your new car after the 1336'th car registered that year and bag the 1337 (at a price of course)

pet wrote:

a)shop
b)look at porn
c)talk to paedophiles

You should get a job in marketing
Makes you wonder how the net ever took off at all doesn't it.