Drugs

LegacyUser

I realised I love getting out of my head at about the age of 12, I used to take mouthfuls of creme de menthe out of my grannies drinks cabinet as young as 6. I started sniffing tippex thinners at 13, petrol at 14, I began with hash at 14 too and lsd trips began at 15. The e's came along at 17 and the coke soon followed.

The thing is I keep waiting for the sky to fall in but it doesn't - I did well in my leaving cert two years ago and will qualify as a vet in three or four more years.

I have had nothing but fun on drugs - they have made me do nothing but laugh, the thing is I don't actually think I could live without the buzz of knowing they are there.

That in itself concerns me as I my thought process seems so warped, I think the world would be a worse place without them.

Whats the right thing here?

Gordon

Whats right could be deemed
-what's legal
-what's socially acceptable
-what's right for you

Otherwise I have no reason for PI to entertain what I believe to be your queries on drugs wrt society. Therefore this is more of a Humanities matter. I am moving this to the appropriate forum but you cannot post unregistered in Humanities.

Gone West

you are an addict. Your life seems grand now, but some day, probably soon. You will fall. You will need to get off this stuff before it ruins your life totally

Stark

Sounds like a troll to me.

kinkstr

Try going cold turkey from all the drugs you take, the world might'nt be as good as it was when you were off your face

Gone West

troll? this is (probably)an addict who has just made an important first step towards admitting to himself that he has a problem. And you call him a troll?

I'd have to disagree.

Simi

You sound like a friend of mine. He can't imagine a world without drugs either.

DrIndy

A minority of people are able to control their use of drugs and can actually derive pleasure from them.

Most people cannot and they end up as addicts.

You are one of the lucky ones. Consider yourself that and do not generalise the philosophy that all can be like you.

You may one day lose control - which I sincerely hope not, but I would suggest stopping just in case.

Zombrex

19 years old wrote:

I have had nothing but fun on drugs - they have made me do nothing but laugh, the thing is I don't actually think I could live without the buzz of knowing they are there.

That in itself concerns me as I my thought process seems so warped, I think the world would be a worse place without them.

As has been said, you are a drug addict and you need to get help.

Even if you like taking the drugs, being addicted to anything especially mind altering substances is not a good idea. The fact that you feel you would be depressed without them is also very worrying. You need help, I would recommend forgetting about Boards.ie and going as soon as possible to a proper consellor who can direct you on the best course of action.

Zombrex

DrIndy wrote:

A minority of people are able to control their use of drugs and can actually derive pleasure from them.

Most people cannot and they end up as addicts.

You are one of the lucky ones. Consider yourself that and do not generalise the philosophy that all can be like you.

You may one day lose control - which I sincerely hope not, but I would suggest stopping just in case.

Sustained controlled drug use is very damaging to the body both physcially and mentally. He has been taking hard drugs since 15, god knows what that has actually done to his development, and he appears to be a cronic user of hard drugs such as coke and E which is doing continuous damage to him. He says by his own statement, that he needs drugs to have a good time which is a sign of addiction.

He has admitted that without the drugs he "could not live" .. he is a drug addict, and needs help, not being told he is "lucky"

Chucky the tree

Wicknight wrote:

that he needs drugs to have a good time which is a sign of addiction.

how many young people would you say could go on a night out without drink and have a good time? very few i would say. ARe they all addicts aswell?

BuffyBot

The thing is I keep waiting for the sky to fall in but it doesn't

It generally doesn't until you stop looking. Someday you will, and it'll be a whole heap of trouble...

Zillah

I'll just say this. Don't move ont to anything heavier, specifically heroin. Intravenous drugs are a terrible idea, for so many reasons. Coke'll screw up your brain eventually, lsd will bring relaspe trips, but intravenous drugs will give you aids and get you involved in some very very bad circles.

Enjoy drugs if you insist, but never allow yourself to presume that they're not dangerous.

Evil Phil

Perhaps the fact that you've never experience adult life without drugs is why you feel you can't live without them. However, I would guess that the problem goes deeper and that your drug abuse is a coping mechanism, counselling will help you find better ways of dealing with things. Go talk to a consellor - you college probably provides a free service.

Zombrex

Chucky the tree wrote:

how many young people would you say could go on a night out without drink and have a good time? very few i would say. ARe they all addicts aswell?

Drugs flood your brain with mood altering chemicals that produce an artifical seens of happiness and well being. The reverse of that is the more drug use a person goes through the less and less their own natural chemicals have the ability to raise the person to a state of contentment and happiness. If this guy is incapable or finds it very hard to feel happy and comfortable without drugs, then it is most likely because his moods have been addicted to the mind altering properties of the drugs.

Stark

Chucky the tree wrote:

how many young people would you say could go on a night out without drink and have a good time? very few i would say. ARe they all addicts aswell?

^^^
Yes.

I can go anywhere without drinking and have a good time if the company's good. (If the company can't get over the fact that I'm not drinking, well that's a different story).

I had a friend who's totally addicted to all sorts of drugs (We don't speak these days though, since he's effectively dumped me for "like-minded" people). You could never explain to him the concept that the brain "averages" out pleasure. As in the brain keeps track of how much pleasure stimulation it receives every day then creates a "baseline" from this. If you're totally clean, your baseline will be rock-bottom and the slightest bit of stimulation will make you feel great and you never have to worry about those nasty drops below the baseline.

If you're a total addict on the other hand, your baseline is extremely high and you will feel like absolute **** if you're deprived of any of that stimulation. Is also gets more and more difficult to rise about the baseline, the more addicted you get.

And that's my response to those addict fools who claim "oh well, at least we're having way more fun than you despite the consequences".

lost_lad

19 years old wrote:

I have had nothing but fun on drugs - they have made me do nothing but laugh, the thing is I don't actually think I could live without the buzz of knowing they are there.

I used to feel the exact same. Up until a year ago this month.

Loved my hash and E's and the odd line of coke. It was fun. Gave me confidence (well dutch courage anyway). I didn't and dont drink fu*k all (still regard it as one of the worst drugs of all). They enabled me too have buzz and enjoy myself in a pub/club environment.

But i had one very ****ty nite there where knives and threats towards me. I honestly did nothing to provoke it. But since that night when i hear dance music or see strob lights i'm right back at that night all over again.

Some thing that happened while i was the drugs an out side effect that, that could have so much of an effect on me just is not worth it. Still have the odd joint but as soon as i start to get stoned i freak and and put it out.

Drugs just aint worth. I know people who have neen doing drugs for years with no side effects (at least that they've shared anyway) and while my sob story was caused by an out side effect its effect was multplyed by ten by me being off my tits.

May never happen. But what if it does??

Also charlie users are prone to seizures even after they give it up. and using charlie will make other drugs easier to use and get addicted too.
It does change your brain chemistry!!!

simu

19 years old wrote:

I realised I love getting out of my head at about the age of 12, I used to take mouthfuls of creme de menthe out of my grannies drinks cabinet as young as 6. I started sniffing tippex thinners at 13, petrol at 14, I began with hash at 14 too and lsd trips began at 15. The e's came along at 17 and the coke soon followed.

The thing is I keep waiting for the sky to fall in but it doesn't - I did well in my leaving cert two years ago and will qualify as a vet in three or four more years.

I have had nothing but fun on drugs - they have made me do nothing but laugh, the thing is I don't actually think I could live without the buzz of knowing they are there.

That in itself concerns me as I my thought process seems so warped, I think the world would be a worse place without them.

Whats the right thing here?

TV and school drugs programmes like to give the impression your life will be ruined the second you consume an illegal drug. Real life is more subtle. Some people do take drugs in moderate doses over a long time period with no bad effects, other people die the first time they take an ecstacy pill, some people get gradually more dependent on drugs etc etc - it depends on a whole load of factors, including chance. I think you should try to be honest to yourself about your drug use - if you have fears that they're causing you harm, you should start changing your habits. Also, read up about the long-term effects of drugs - some are worse than others and consider where your money is going when you pay for them.

2paki

Sounds like a troll to me

what kind of a muppit call someone a "troll"?! shut your face..

buddy u should give em up and see what life is like without em, remember rehab is for quitters