Slipknot - 9 members?

0utshined

I was listening to some Slipknot songs there and was trying to figure out what they all do. I mean I can make out the drums, guitar, bass, vocals and some of the samples but that still leaves 3 guys over. What do they do exactly? Why do they need a DJ? Are they just for the live show or do they actually add anything to the sound that the others couldn't? Anyone?

Creamy Goodness

i think one of them just has a set of drums on what looks to be a little cherry picker and he just head bangs while kneeling on top of them

Karl Hungus

They've got two "Percussionists" who basically have nothing but bass drums, so those blastbeats don't put too much of a strain on poor Joey.

Ro: maaan!

Don't they have two guys that just beat the crap out of each other on stage?

0utshined

Karl Hungus wrote:

They've got two "Percussionists" who basically have nothing but bass drums, so those blastbeats don't put too much of a strain on poor Joey.

Are you serious? They can play fast sometimes but not that fast. Most bands manage

Cremo wrote:

i think one of them just has a set of drums on what looks to be a little cherry picker and he just head bangs while kneeling on top of them.

I think I've seen that in one of their videos. It's not really adding anything to the sound though.

I am MAN

These guys are so untalented and sell by image.

I would rather go to see Justin Timberlake than Slipknot....

0utshined

I am MAN wrote:

These guys are so untalented and sell by image.

I would rather go to see Justin Timberlake than Slipknot....

Justin's okay but I preferred it when he was in 'NSYNC.


I've said too much.

senordingdong

Outshined wrote:

I think I've seen that in one of their videos. It's not really adding anything to the sound though.

You've obviously never given Slipknot a proper listen.

I am MAN wrote:

These guys are so untalented and sell by image.

Yes....sell by image. I'm sure their image makes a huge contribution to their sound.

I am MAN

senordingdong wrote:

You've obviously never given Slipknot a proper listen.


Yes....sell by image. I'm sure their image makes a huge contribution to their sound.

Image obviously has nothing to do with sound obviously and the reason I said that is because I cant comprehend believing they have talent or a good sound.

Kiddy music is all.

It wasn't me!

Individually they can do some cool things. Mick Thompson is a shredder, no doubt about it, but what he does with Slipknot doesn't show what he can do at all. Here's a question, why do they wear the masks and overalls if it's not to help sell CD's? The comment you derided was that they use their image to sell music, which they unquestionably do. And how is listening to them going to show how kneeling on a set of bongos on top of a cherrypicker adds to their sound praytell? A good band can do everything Slipknot do and more without nine members. They simply do not need them. They're not an overly technical band.

nosmo

Oh lord. This topic again.

My case in point for how pointless the extraneous members of Slipknot are is the live video of them playing Duality on Jay Leno. The clown fellah. He dances around for the whole song. He hits a metal can with a baseball bat about 6, maybe 7 times. that's his contribution. The other "percussionist" does nothing, sits on top of his bongos. The synthesizer and turntable guys just sit up the back headbanging, hidden away so it's not too obvious they're not doing anything.

0utshined

senordingdong wrote:

You've obviously never given Slipknot a proper listen.

I have and I like a lot of there stuff but my question was why have 3 extra guys that aren't, or don't appear to be adding anything musically to the band. If it's important to have " a metal can hit with a baseball bat about 6, maybe 7 times" then why not have the the guy who does the samples do it?

I'm not trying to diss them , I just don't see what's added by the extra members, although clearly the band do...

projectmayhem

here's the dealy:

9 members:

dj (looping, scratching, etc.)
2 guitars
bass
singer
drummer
2 percussionists (listen to the records and you can hear their contribution. if you can't tell the difference between joey's bass drums and their drums, you are tone deaf)
1 samples guy (..he takes samples. he used to be the guitarist but wasn't particularly fast, so he writes moreso then plays)

yes, the 2 percussionists and sampler could be spared but there would be a noticable difference. and in terms of a live show where chaos ensues, they can't be touched.

as for the whole image thing, if you buy any cd because of image you're a true shmuck. if you diss a band because of their image then you're a bigger shmuck. if you dislike the music, so be it... but that has nothing to do with their suits and masks. when everyone brings this issue up they never mention kiss, mushroomhead or other bands who do exactly the same thing, so take your "that's not real music" elitist bull**** elsewhere

Pugsley

The other 2 percussionist fellow's have 2 diffrent types of drum kits, you can hear them on some songs, most of the time they do nothing tho, you can hear one of the other drum kits well in the intro to 'Prosthetics', not sure exactly what the other kit sounds like.

As for selling on image, why do black metal bands wear that wierd makeup? are they also talentless spanner's selling purely on image?

[ Daithí ]

Have any of you ever seen Slipknot's "Disasterpieces" DVD? I have it, and I can tell you that from watching that concert that every member of the band has an important role to play.

Shawn and Chris give a distinctive sounds to the songs. No, they're not to take the pressure off Joey's double bass drum runs. Listen to songs like "Gently" and you'll hear them all the way through. Craig (samples) has a huge role on "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses", sampling sounds that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Sid (DJ).. well.. I suppose he works in line with Craig. He stands out on songs like "Eyeless".

Mr. CooL ICE

They could just replace craig with a roadie or have one of the percussionists playing his stuff. Feckit, put sid doing the samples and get rid of another percussionist. They would be fine with 7, 9 is just ott.

Splitting their money 9 ways - no wonder they complain about being broke

Drums

0utshined wrote:

I was listening to some Slipknot songs there and was trying to figure out what they all do. I mean I can make out the drums, guitar, bass, vocals and some of the samples but that still leaves 3 guys over. What do they do exactly? Why do they need a DJ? Are they just for the live show or do they actually add anything to the sound that the others couldn't? Anyone?

the rest do some vocals and percussion..... Which basically means hit things with baseball bats

A$$A$$IN

Shawn Crahan aka The Clown is an idiot he has no purpose in the band yet apparently pulls alot of strings behind the scenes never the less he is an idiot don't really mind any1 else in the band

nosmo

As for the samples.. do you really need a guy on stage to hit "play" a few times a song?

[ Daithí ]

Actually, sampling holds their newest album together. Listen to it. There's a lot of sampling.

I am MAN

[ Daith&#237 wrote: »

Actually, sampling holds their newest album together. Listen to it. There's a lot of sampling.

It's funny watching the excuses come, you cant justify Slipknot having 9 members at all.

projectmayhem

I am MAN wrote:

It's funny watching the excuses come, you cant justify Slipknot having 9 members at all.

why does anyone have to justify slipknot having 9 members to you?

they all serve a purpose, you don't have to like it. i don't see why it makes a lick of difference to anyone anyway.

"it's like 9 layers. 9 layers of pure music" - shawn (clown)

Beekay

projectmayhem wrote:

"it's like 9 layers. 9 layers of pure music" - shawn (clown)

yeah but two of those layers are percussions.

its like they didn't have the guts to tell some band members they weren't needed

CrazyTalk

the percussionists do backing vocals aswell. not alot, but they do it.
i suppose they probably help write the sings and stuff too.

[ Daithí ]

I am MAN wrote:

It's funny watching the excuses come, you cant justify Slipknot having 9 members at all.

I don't need to justify it to you. I'm explaining why they have nine members to everyone else. Since you don't like Slipknot, why are you here? To annoy people who do enjoy their music?

I am MAN

[ Daith&#237 wrote: »

I don't need to justify it to you. I'm explaining why they have nine members to everyone else. Since you don't like Slipknot, why are you here? To annoy people who do enjoy their music?

If thats what you call it.

[ Daithí ]

Obviously that's what I call it.

Got nothing better to do than point out the obvious in order to raise your post count?

I am MAN

[ Daith&#237 wrote: »

Obviously that's what I call it.

Got nothing better to do than point out the obvious in order to raise your post count?

I could not care less about my post count, Why the hell would I care what my post count is? How will this benefit me?.

As for Slipknot...I think they are untalented, I dont agree with anything they do and I believe that having 9 members in the band is overkill totally unecessary plus I disagree with anyone who tries to justify all of there unique little roles for the simple fact I just dont see it.

[ Daithí ]

Why would someone need to justify something that is fact? Have you even listened to their latest album? Wait, stupid question. You probably haven't.

I am MAN

[ Daith&#237 wrote: »

Why would someone need to justify something that is fact? Have you even listened to their latest album? Wait, stupid question. You probably haven't.

I dont believe it to be fact. Of course I have not got their latest album, why would I waste my money buying it if I think so little of them.

Töpher

They only have 6 members on the MFKR EP, although its the only thing of theirs I could actually say I liked anymore, you can definately hear alot more going on in the songs during the later releases.

Tar.Aldarion

their latest album is brilliant,i cant believe some1 could say they are not talented after it.my friends who hate slipknot and like the frames,belle and sebastian etc love it.it shows they can actually sing realy really well,it has great lyrics and guitar,samples are excellent.
who cares if they have 9 members(btw the clown plays the triangle).why would it need to be justified.they probably all express ideas handle business,work on the lyrics,keg solos etc. plus even if they dont need 9 members they are probably friends and like hangin out and **** on stage . they are brilliant live,because if two or 3 of em are not doin anything they can just throw kegs at each other.....

Oeneus

Personally, I hate Slipknot. I think they sound ****. But I really consider what they do as an act of genius. Play really **** angry music, employ nine people with it, and wear masks so no one knows who we are. And enjoy all the advantages of fame without the flaws.

And i'm sure they earn enough money to get all 9 of them loaded. And they can walk outside without being smuthered.

Genius!

senordingdong

Beekay wrote:

its like they didn't have the guts to tell some band members they weren't needed

Maybe that is the case. Would you have the heart to do/say somethign liek that to a friend?

Pugsley

They had no problem giving their origional singer the boot, so it couldnt be that hard for them

Mr. CooL ICE

Oeneus wrote:

And i'm sure they earn enough money to get all 9 of them loaded. And they can walk outside without being smuthered.

As far as I know, they don't make a whole pile of money, due to there being 9 of them. This was one reason given as to why they took a break after Iowa to do side projects - make some money, and get the hell away from each other.

Only one thing will ever justify having 9 members - the live shows. As I said before, they could get rid of the sampler (let sid do that) and one of the percussionists, with absolutely no change to the sound. Hey, they could perform all the songs on Iowa with only 6 of them!

I watched the Slipknot dvd, and i cant remember off hand what song it was, probably The Heretic Song, and the two percussionists were banging along with the snare. But if you look closely, they werent even hitting the drums, just pretending to!

bombidol

I used to hate Slipknot. but ive come around to them in the last year or two. Great band sometimes, terrible sometimes. On any given album theres half random rubbish half gems.

galactus

[ Daith&#237 wrote: »

Have any of you ever seen Slipknot's "Disasterpieces" DVD? I have it, and I can tell you that from watching that concert that every member of the band has an important role to play.

Its outstanding.

As for all this why have they 9 members? Who cares. They sound good and they're American is as much as I know or want to know about them.

"The Subliminal Verses" has rarely got a rest since I got it. Best album I've heard in a while.

Tobias Greeshman

Oenus wrote:

And i'm sure they earn enough money to get all 9 of them loaded. And they can walk outside without being smuthered.

I heard them talking in interview before (at release of IOWA) and saying that they were not actually that rich. With 9 members in the band, they are not as rich as most people would think they would be.

derrylahan

let me(!) justify 9 members (its wat i do)....

eg.
SLIPKNOT - IOWA - 07 - GENTLY

0 - Sid - Dj
loops wind blowing kinda sound at da beginning and then gradually mixes it around ALL throughout da song untill 3:45.

1 - Joey - Drummer
drums throughout the track

2 - Paul - Bassist
plays the most simpliest riff u could ever write at da beginning which sets up the song in a relaxing mood.

3 - Chris - Percusionist
drums throughout track with a sound that joey could not replicate with his kit.

4 - Jim - Guitarist
does most of the guitar riffs untill 3:45

5 - Craig - Sampler
at roughly 10 secs into the song u can hear corey whispering, this is craigs part not coreys. craig does different mixing so u can hear corey whispering from your left speaker over the right and vicsa versa, and it is overdubbed, speeded up slowed down and loads of effects added.

6 - Shawn - Percusionist
drums a different riff to chris and does more drumming then him aswell. u have to see da dvd to see wat i mean

7 - Mick - Guitarist
Plays lead troughout the track.

8 - Corey - Vocals
sings, shouts, screams, roars, shreiks, and wat not throughout the track


and if your wondering y 2 pecussionist, well the idea was create a wall of sound for drums, just like 2 guitarist in most bands.

i'm goin to settle this

derrylahan

wats wrong I am MAN,
cat got your tongue?