Recording two track mixdown.

eunanm

Hi

I have a question relating to recording two tracks into Adobe Audition on my laptop.

I am currently going through a Behringer Desk along with 1 more guitar a bass and vocals. I have a Tascam US-122 sound card hooked up with two inputs.

When I hook up the XLR Main outs on the desk to the sound card I get very mixed results in the recording.

Should I be using a different output on the Desk into the Card??

Basically I am just trying to get a feel for the overall sound of the band coming through the desk while we are playing to see what can be improved etc...
We are not trying to get a perfect recording although a god balance across all the inputs would be nice.

Any help appreciated

Cheers

E

bombidol

whats the sound like? i use a similar set up with a behringer desk into a 10/10 soundcard into Adobe Audition.
Is the sound just plain bad ? check the quality of the incoming tracks, set em to 32 bit and when you mixdown, mixdown to 16 bit. see if that helps

eunanm

I probably had it all set up wrong in the first place as this is the first time I have done this.

Checking with headphones the sound was ok on the desk, and we had the desk going through the amp to the cabs sounded good all round everyone was clear. As each instrument started playing in Audition the signal was getting stronger and stronger then clipping all over the place.
If we played each instrument individually it sounded good even on playback after recording. It could be that the mic is creating a feedback path thorough the whole set-up??

Could it be that I have got the levels setup wrong in Audition.

I read in the Manual for the desk that there is a 6db gain on the XLR outs on the desk could this be causing the problem, Should I not be using the Tape Output directly into the sound card??

Rgds

E.

bombidol

you can use the tape output into the soundcard if you want. or the Aux outs . depends on the type of desk it is. What model is it?
Are you recording the instruments together or seperate.?
If its together
make sure the guitar and the bass are on seperate channels going into Audition.
in the multitrack view, click on the input and set it to use Left input channel on one channel and right imput channel on the second channel.

if you are running the signal out of the soundcard back into the desk make sure its not being sent out into the PC again. If possible monitor the sound seperatly away from the desk.

Let me know what desk and Soundcard it is and i might be able to help you more.

gar

eunanm

Cheers for that.
The Soundcard is this one
Soundcard
The Desk is this one.
Desk

We were recording everything together mixing it on the desk and hoping to get that sound down onto two tracks.

Does that mean I will have to pan the bass to the left and the guitars to the right or something to get them to go to different tracks??

I am just wondering if I have the wrong soundcard for what I am trying to do..

Don't worry if you haven't got the time to help.

I will keep reading the manuals and posts on the web..

Rgds

E.

bombidol

ahh cool. now that i can see the stuff i understand

you might need one or two adapters etc.

the SC has 2 inputs, And you wanna record bass and guitar at the same time yeah?
ok say guitar goes into input 1 and the bass is going into input 2 on the sound desk.

your best bet is to run the signal out the auxilarys on the desk. So on channel 1 where you have the guitar going in. Find the knob called Aux 1 send/out and turn it up to roughly half way. do the same on the channel for the bass but turn up Aux 2 send/out. make sure none of the other Auxilarys other than the one you want are turned up.

then on the board there should be some jack's marked Aux 1 , 2, etc.
run a cable from Aux 1 into input one on the soundcard, and cable from aux 2 to input 2 on the soundcard.

You now have seperate signals going into the SC.

In audition. In multitrack view. Click on input (or rightclick where the channel properties are) and make sure the input is set to the soundcard channel that you want.
Do the same for another Audition channel for the bass .
you you have 2 seperate channels in auditions. one for guitar coming in on channel 1 from the soundcard. And another for the bass coming in on channel 2 on the soundcard.

then just arm the tracks as usual (red button on audition i think) and record.

Let me know if that makes sense.


in fairness there are probably a million different ways to send the signal from the desk into the soundcard and audition but that one just jumped out at me cause ive done it at home with small desks before.
the Tape out is handy if you are running into a line in on a regular soundcard but if yours has XLR inputs then use em.

The halfway mark on the Aux Send is just a guide, it might take a lot less that that or a lot more. prick around with it a few times till you get a nice level in.


gar

eunanm

I see what you mean now..
Thanks for that So basically by turning up the Aux I can control what I send to the card and because I am using Aux 1 for Guitar and Aux 2 for Bass they will be seperated..
Nice trick..

Should I do vocals at the same time or wait and record after..
I was thinking I could send the vocals to aux 1 also?

As there are so many possibilities to take an output it is confusing.
I will give this a try and let you know how I get on..

Again thanks for your help.

Cheers

E

bombidol

record the vocals separate. if you send them through Aux 1 with the guitar you wont be able to add effects and change the volume without effecting the guitar too.

gar

Barryoh2004

wow, i thought my dad was the only eunan in the world. but, evidently not.