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Whose your favorite Doctor?

  • 20-02-2005 11:28pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭


    Its a tough one, but you really get to know the 7th doctor through the new adventures. The cynical sly meddler side of him was intrigueing.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Jaysus! Someone else read the New Adventures :D I loved that series. How many did you read? I read all 61, right up to "Lungbarrow" and I agree - it really changes your outlook on what we say of McCoy on the TV series. The Doctor becomes far more powerful, a bit of a manipulator but very intruiging.

    Based on TV performances, it'd be Tom Baker but for novel reading it's be the NA interpretation of the 7th Doctor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Well I only read about 20, Human Nature is a fav, and Sky Pirates.
    Was it 61 altogether? Some of them were great early 90s gritty urban zombie stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I was always a fan of Pertwee as the doctor myself.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    foxybrowne wrote:
    Well I only read about 20, Human Nature is a fav, and Sky Pirates.
    Was it 61 altogether? Some of them were great early 90s gritty urban zombie stuff.
    Yup 61 in total. I struggled to get them all near the end because they were out of print. I bid above the odds on ebay for the likes of "Lungbarrow" for example, which revealed who The Other was, how he related to the Doctor, and a good bit about the Doctor's family (I saw it go for up to £150 on ebay). I even got one copy off one of the authors in my plight.
    If you're bothered, some of these novels, including "Lungbarrow" are now available to readonline at BBC's Doctor Who site.

    I also managed to secure all the Virgin MAs (33) and most of the Bernice spin-off novels (bar the last two which I may purchase for exorbant prices on Amazon).

    I've now moved on to the BBC EDAs - the series of original novels that pick off after the failed telemovie. There's 73 of those - I've about 6 to collect left - bought others but ain't read them all. I've about 20 of their PDAs. And then I've got about 100 or so of the Target novels.

    As for the show, I've got about 95% of the series from Season 7 onwards (Pertwee) on videotape....

    Anyone want to take me on as Board's #1 Doctor Who fan :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Can't rightly remember half of em. Only 2 I know of really, are Davison & Pertwee.
    Anywho John Pertwee would prolly be my fave. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    What did you think of the Target novelisation of "The Twin Dilema", it had an enjoyable "Hitchhikers Guide..." kinda feel, as did the "Delta and the Bannermen" one.
    Will there ever be a novelisation of "Shada" and "City of Death"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    Hmm. Reading that makes me want to pick up some Doctor books. I remember how no matter the odds, he'd outfox the bad guys and win the day. :D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Tom baker then Jon Pertwee


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    foxybrowne wrote:
    What did you think of the Target novelisation of "The Twin Dilema", it had an enjoyable "Hitchhikers Guide..." kinda feel, as did the "Delta and the Bannermen" one.
    Will there ever be a novelisation of "Shada" and "City of Death"?
    Ah there was, unsurprisingly, a bit of that vibe off some - particularly "Delata and the Bannermen". Not so much a fan of "The Twin Dilemna" (for those of you who don't know Douglas Adams scripted a few Doctor Who stories).

    I think there's still legal problems with the estates over "Shada" preventing it from being adapted. It's even more difficult given that, AFAIK, the Target imprint (taken over by Virgin I believe and then back to the BBC) is no longer operational...

    Just about to order, as it happens, the Faction Paradox series of books - a spinoff range from the EDAs about a cult group intent on creating havoc with the timelines. Always a shame they killed that thread off...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Why do you say unsurprisingly, Adams had nothing to do with scripts or novelisation of "Twin Dilema" and "Delta", as far as I know.
    So what about this new series then, Billie Piper, hey hello there young wan, I'd say I can flog off all d'aul vids then at a good price.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    foxybrowne wrote:
    Why do you say unsurprisingly, Adams had nothing to do with scripts or novelisation of "Twin Dilema" and "Delta", as far as I know.
    Whoops - for "Delta and the Bannermen", I thought of "The Pirate Planet". And I hadn't meant to imply Adams touched "Twin Dilmena" - he was finished with the series after Tom, I believe.
    So what about this new series then, Billie Piper, hey hello there young wan, I'd say I can flog off all d'aul vids then at a good price.
    Ahh but are the vids worth anything with the new DVD editions (have you got any of those?). Should be interesting, particularly if the rumours are true and it's premiering this month...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    Tom Baker was of course the best TV doctor, and yeah, the "new adventures" novels really took great strides in muddying the doctor's personality into something more believable in a character with so much power as the doctor clearly has.
    MY only hope is that the new TV series with Eccleston manages to touch or even replicate that side of the doctor to a certain degree, rather than go back to whimsy (at least there'll be no question marks on the shirt collers )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    at least there'll be no question marks on the shirt collers
    And no more hanging off cliffs by umbrellas neither.
    But hopefully lots more dark corridors and deserted spacestations.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    There's a very positive review of the new series in Q Magazine (lifted here from Gallifreyone.com):
    Q Magazine, a popular UK music magazine, has published a glowing review of the new series in its latest issue, calling it "must-see TV for everyone". From the comments and some of the details given in the review it would appear that the reviewer, Boyd Hilton, has seen a number of episodes from the series - all of which impressed. Amongst many plaudits Hilton states that "the much-hyped return of rickety sci-fí classic Doctor Who lives up to all expectations: it's every bit as good as its mid-'70s heyday. Furthermore, this time around you don't have to be a geek to enjoy it." He goes on to comment on Eccleston's performance; "The inestimable Christopher Eccleston plays the ninth Doctor... replete with trendy leather jacket and wry sense of humour." As for Billie Piper; "the biggest surprise of the show is Billie Piper's performance as the Doctor's "assistant" Rose Tyler. Not only does Piper prove she can hold her own in the company of esteemed actors, but her feisty cockney character shows real depth. Importantly, Rose's relationship with the Doctor is as an equal, rather than just being there to whimper when the aliens show up." The special effects also impress: "Gone are the cardboard sets and naff-looking monsters of old, this time you see... [edited geographical location] ...landmarks come under thrilling alien attack, as convincing and exciting as anything shown before in a British TV series." Boyd ends by praising series writer and executive producer Russell T Davies for the "triumphant regeneration" of Doctor Who (the series rather than the person) and for "the slick, sharp dialogue". He ends by saying that "Doctor Who is no longer the domain solely of sci-fi spods, this is must-see TV for everyone".

    Yay :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    (dribble)

    but I remember years ago when the Paul McGann t.v. movie came out, my reception was ****e, cos we had an aerial, and all I saw was grey fuzz.
    But hey, thats all anyone saw back in 1963, when Doctor Who (a thrilling adventure in time and space) was first aired.

    Did you read the second New Adventure when the Doctor and Ace went to Wales and went to Tír na n-Óg (which is prob the nearest the Doctor came to visiting Erin's green Isle)?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    foxybrowne wrote:
    Did you read the second New Adventure when the Doctor and Ace went to Wales and went to Tír na n-Óg (which is prob the nearest the Doctor came to visiting Erin's green Isle)?
    That was the 7th IIRC. The first four were the Timewyrm series and then it jumped into the loose Cat's Cradle trilogy. Cat's Cradle:Witchmark was the Tir na nOg one and yeah I remember being excited that *finally* the TARDIS landed in Ireland :D

    I still think he should visit us more often. I'm stretching my memory here but I've a feeling there's an Irish short story in one of the Decalogs involving a vampire and the 4th Doctor and Romana arriving in Dublin :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    I don't think the TARDIS landed in Ireland in that one, did it?
    Hey whats your favorite DW quote?

    I like
    "someday I shall return, yes someday, but until then, go foward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine"
    from William Hartnell in last episode of Dalek Invasion of Earth


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Mine's from the "Androids of Tara" maybe. K-9 was always a bit useless and, in this one, he had to use his crappy little red-beam laser and the Doctor scolds him, "A hamster with a blunt pen knife could do it quicker!" :D Baker's delivery on the line is great.

    I'm also kinda partial to the final line of the original series (in "Survival"): There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!

    The Doctor vs Davros scene in "Genesis of the Daleks" where the Doctor tries to reason with Davros about what he's going to create is a classic as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    You can pretty much tell a person's age by which is their favourite Doctor (or favourite Star Trek series)
    My fave is Patrick Troughton (because he's the best :D )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    "If we fight like animals, we die like animals"

    The first episode I saw on telly was the Colin Baker with the plants on the spaceship.

    If you have Pyramids of Mars on video, check out the hand holding down the pillow when the evil baddie Egyptian god gets up off his chair for teh first time. And then Ghostlight when you see the camera crew in the wardrobe's mirror when Ace and the Doctor have their chat about confronting the past.

    Sophie Alren was a fine one alright.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    foxybrowne wrote:
    If you have Pyramids of Mars on video, check out the hand holding down the pillow when the evil baddie Egyptian god gets up off his chair for teh first time. And then Ghostlight when you see the camera crew in the wardrobe's mirror when Ace and the Doctor have their chat about confronting the past.
    Or in "The Green Death" (I think) you can see the cue-hand indicating "roll scene!" in one shot :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    Ah The Green Death - the best use of condoms & fox skulls one can think of this side of a strange ritual ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    The Green Death was also the television premiere of Quorn, I believe.
    Yum, sausage shaped fungus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Just read Sunday Times, Culture, pg 6: new Doctor Who series starts Easter weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    :D
    less than a month away - ooooooh :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Woudnt it be great if it could be shown on the big screen in Meeting House square, and we could all head along with digestives and a weak orange drink.
    Hurrah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    I'll get the Jelybabies ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    I'll get the giant inflatable Dalek.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I'll knit the 22' scarfs :) [there's a website dedicated to it here]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    wellity wellity, it's already been leaked onto the internet...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4326005.stm


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    ... *falls on his knees and thanks his cousins who are sending it right now* ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    The Autons, who'd have thought, right back to 1970 and Jon Pertwees first episode, and then the other Auton one, from which a particularily cool scene seems to have been recreated in the new series (season 30, anyone?).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    Hmmmm part of me wouldn't mind seeing this leaked copy, part of me wouldn't mind waiting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Gavin W


    ixoy wrote:
    Yup 61 in total. I struggled to get them all near the end because they were out of print. I bid above the odds on ebay for the likes of "Lungbarrow" for example, which revealed who The Other was, how he related to the Doctor, and a good bit about the Doctor's family (I saw it go for up to £150 on ebay). I even got one copy off one of the authors in my plight.
    If you're bothered, some of these novels, including "Lungbarrow" are now available to readonline at BBC's Doctor Who site.

    I also managed to secure all the Virgin MAs (33) and most of the Bernice spin-off novels (bar the last two which I may purchase for exorbant prices on Amazon).

    I've now moved on to the BBC EDAs - the series of original novels that pick off after the failed telemovie. There's 73 of those - I've about 6 to collect left - bought others but ain't read them all. I've about 20 of their PDAs. And then I've got about 100 or so of the Target novels.

    As for the show, I've got about 95% of the series from Season 7 onwards (Pertwee) on videotape....

    Anyone want to take me on as Board's #1 Doctor Who fan :D

    Okay, I'll pick up that gauntlet...

    I've got every single Target novelisation, NA/MA (bought at original prices at the time of publishing, even Lungbarrow :D ), BBC book, Telos Novella, etc. In fact just about every published piece of fiction featuring the Doctor from around the last 20 years or so, as well as dozens of factual/reference books.

    I have every existing episode of the show on video or DVD, plus the recons and soundtrack CDs of the missing episodes, all of Big Finish's new DW audio stories (as well as one or two of their Doctor-less spin-offs) and my collection of Doctor Who Magazine stretches back to around 1984.

    Anyone want to take me on as Ireland's #1 Doctor Who fan? ;)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Gavin W wrote:
    Okay, I'll pick up that gauntlet...

    I've got every single Target novelisation, NA/MA (bought at original prices at the time of publishing, even Lungbarrow :D ), BBC book, Telos Novella, etc. In fact just about every published piece of fiction featuring the Doctor from around the last 20 years or so, as well as dozens of factual/reference books.

    I have every existing episode of the show on video or DVD, plus the recons and soundtrack CDs of the missing episodes, all of Big Finish's new DW audio stories (as well as one or two of their Doctor-less spin-offs) and my collection of Doctor Who Magazine stretches back to around 1984.

    Anyone want to take me on as Ireland's #1 Doctor Who fan? ;)
    Skaro on a stick! You win. Tell me where you live so I can side my Ogron assistants to steal your collection - I'm positively jealous!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Gavin W


    ixoy wrote:
    Skaro on a stick! You win. Tell me where you live so I can side my Ogron assistants to steal your collection - I'm positively jealous!

    Ah, but it's guarded by that big blobby orange monster they're terified of, so they'll have to get past him first! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    more to the point, we'd have a hard enough time finding your secret lair, cos all those damned quarries look the same :p;)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    more to the point, we'd have a hard enough time finding your secret lair, cos all those damned quarries look the same :p;)
    Wasn't it in "The Hand of Fear" when they arrived in an actual quarry and taught they were on an alien planet :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Check out the clips on the BBC site, its great alright.
    Whens it going to be on the telly anyway?

    I see there is a Doctor Who night on BBC2 during the week, but its all crap stuff, why don't they show an episode or two, that'd be better.

    I'm trying to book the big screen in the local community centre to watch the first episode of the new show, diggidy diggidy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭regeneration


    huh? what clips? there only seems to be those 10 second trailers on the bbc site...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Yeah they are only small, but there's loads of ones from the old series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    ixoy wrote:


    As for the show, I've got about 95% of the series from Season 7 onwards (Pertwee) on videotape....

    Anyone want to take me on as Board's #1 Doctor Who fan :D

    Ah....so not a fan of seasons 1 through 6....

    Patrick Troughton is by far and away my my favorite Doctor, he always injected so much life and energy into the role without going over the top.

    After that I am very fond of Colin Baker, some of his Big Finish Audios are fantastic. For anybody who hasn't listened to them can I recommend Jubliee (Written by Rob Shearman the writer of the Dalek episode this season)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭foxybrowne


    Big Finish Audios are fantastic. For anybody who hasn't listened to them can I recommend Jubliee (Written by Rob Shearman the writer of the Dalek episode this season)

    Are they radio dramas or novels read out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    Radio Dramas with full casts. Have a look at www.doctorwho.co.uk


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