Smart Card for LUAS

Traffic

The RPA and Luas hope to roll out the 2nd phase of the integrated ticketing system on luas from next month.
It will involve smart card technology which can be topped up at luas platforms using the current ticket machines.
Passengers will then have to swipe in and swip out as then use the system using the new smart card readers that are being installed throughtout the system.

optiplexgx270

having to swipe out will be a pain and why? the 7 day/30 day ones require no swiping and are much handier. I say boo to "smart card"

maxheadroom

Traffic wrote:

The RPA and Luas hope to roll out the 2nd phase of the integrated ticketing system on luas from next month.
It will involve smart card technology which can be topped up at luas platforms using the current ticket machines.
Passengers will then have to swipe in and swip out as then use the system using the new smart card readers that are being installed throughtout the system.

Has anyone else noticed how the smart card validators on the green line have a nice clear plastic display on the front including a small LCD information display whereas the ones on the red line have a blank, robust blue face to them. Its almost as if they're using more vandal proof ones on the red line

John R

optiplexgx270 wrote:

having to swipe out will be a pain and why? the 7 day/30 day ones require no swiping and are much handier. I say boo to "smart card"

Only when smart cards are being used as cashless singles will swiping out be necessary. AFAIR if they are not swiped out you will be charged the fare to the end of the line. The same goes for bus trips with smartcards.

weekly/monthly and presumably daily tickets can be put on the smartcard and when in this mode swiping out is not necessary

sliabh

Eeeeeek!!! If you thought it was bad having to queue with 10 or 15 other people to buy tickets imagine the fun when everyone disgorges at a popular mid line station like Dundrum and there us a scrum for the validator?

The system seems lack a fair balance between the other poor options to me. but I am getting the ear plugs ready now for the inevitable whinging that will result.

Traffic

It will take less than a second to validate the smart card, and can remain inside your wallet or purse while doing so, its a similar system to the LUs oyster card. http://www.oystercard.com/

flikflak

So it will be like a key card lift pass you get when you are skiing - just swipe it over?

enterprise

maxheadroom wrote:

Has anyone else noticed how the smart card validators on the green line have a nice clear plastic display on the front including a small LCD information display whereas the ones on the red line have a blank, robust blue face to them. Its almost as if they're using more vandal proof ones on the red line

The blue covers you speak of are a temporary cover which protects the equipment inside the machine, you should see the "front" of the validator attached in the next few weeks. The Smard Card validators on the Green line also had these covers when first erected over the Christmas period.

penexpers

Are they putting the validators on the platforms and not on the trams? That's crazy.

Traffic

If they put the validators on the tram this would help fare evasion as ppl with certain tickets would only validate them when they saw inspectors getting on the tram etc

penexpers

Depends what way the machines are used. In Lyon, the machines are on the trams, monthly ticket holders swipe the smart card over the machine, single ticket holders punch the ticket in the machine. When ticket inspectors get on, the machines are swtiched off in advance by the driver. Works well enough over there.

Bogger77

penexpers wrote:

Depends what way the machines are used. In Lyon, the machines are on the trams, monthly ticket holders swipe the smart card over the machine, single ticket holders punch the ticket in the machine. When ticket inspectors get on, the machines are swtiched off in advance by the driver. Works well enough over there.

Never used the trams in lyon, but the underground and the furniculars had platform validators.

IMO the problem here is,
1) too many presses to get a ticket, no shortcuts for example no Hueston to Connolly button on the main screen.
2) the ticket machines are placed on the middle of the platforms, no room for queuing, be better, esp at the bigger stops for the ticket machines to be placed near the platforms but not on them, the scrum round the machines at stephens green, jervis, abbey, tallaght and hueston is madness

ro2

http://luassmartcard.luas.ie/

They've changed the software on the ticket machines and there's a slot now to add money to your smart card.