Subtle change in Ryanair's T+C

penexpers

Just booked a Ryanair flight tonight (41 euro return to Paris, thank you very much) and they now have this in their T+C

Ryanair does not provide compensation for flights which are delayed or
cancelled for reasons beyond Ryanair's control. You may therefore wish
to ensure that you have suitable private insurance cover in force to
cover such eventualities.

Ryanair does not provide meal vouchers or hotel accommodation for
Flights which are delayed or cancelled for reasons beyond Ryanair's
control.You may therefore wish to ensure that you have suitable private
insurance cover in force to cover such eventualities.

where it used to say

Ryanair does not provide meal vouchers or hotel accommodation for
delayed or cancelled flights at any time.

Guess they will be complying with the new EU legislation...

MojoMaker

That's a softening of their position then. Good news I reckon, even if getting a few quid out of them will be as hard as ever. At least now it's not categorically ruled out.

David Stewart

The big question is how will 'beyond our control' be defined? Ryanair planes are constantly in the air flying from one destination to another and onto a third etc. So a plane that flys from Stansted to Brussels in the morning could end up flying between Glasgow and Dublin in the evening. If fog delays the morning flight then obviously that is out of Ryanair's control. But what about the Glasgow -Dublin flight. It's the same plane so it will be running late but there's no fog at Dublin or Glasgow. So is the delay within Ryanair's control or not. You could argue that the later delays arise from the fact that Ryanair has no 'spare' planes to fill in when planes run late.

jackofalltrades

I'd say it's beyond their control.
Ryanair low cost model is based upon keeping the plane in the air as long as possible, as to make the plane as efficent as possible.
An unforseable delay in one airport will lead to a delay being based on to the other flights that the plane has to make.
If compensation is is to be issued to each passanger on each section of the route then Ryanair would have to pass this cost onto the consumer and the price of flights would start to increase sigfinicatly.

If you want to be put up for the night and given meals and accomodation then you can travel with "high-cost" airlines otherwise you can travel with low-cost airlines and save the money for the outlay of staying in a hotel in the unlikey event that you are delayed.

Although European legislation would disagree with me on the last point :-)

g5fd6ow0hseima

do ryanair take you to town if you dont turn up for a flight youve already payed for? ive made a booking for four but 1 mightnt be coming, should any problems arise since he is willing to forfeit what he payed for the flights?

L1011

They really don't care - they take the money off you, thats the end of their caring. You can not turn up and nowt happens.

I.S.T.

Orlando Wrong Headache wrote: »

do ryanair take you to town if you dont turn up for a flight youve already payed for? ive made a booking for four but 1 mightnt be coming, should any problems arise since he is willing to forfeit what he payed for the flights?

If you choose airport checkin and pay online, then you have to pay the check in charge for all passengers including the person who will not be showing up.

Chris_533976

Dont forget to claim back the taxes. Not sure how you go about it, but you dont have to pay tax on a flight you dont go on, so you can claim it back.

lynchie

Orlando Wrong Headache wrote: »

do ryanair take you to town if you dont turn up for a flight youve already payed for? ive made a booking for four but 1 mightnt be coming, should any problems arise since he is willing to forfeit what he payed for the flights?

Jaysis.. thought they had changed their T&C's again till I realised this thread is almost 4 years old!!

Poster King

Ryanairs business model is based on a certain percentage of people not turning up for flights, I think it is about 10%. On more than one occassion i've purchased tickets on spec and not used them. In theory they should refund the taxes but they don't.

With all the money I've saved over the years flying with Ryanair, i think I could afford a little extra expense if a flight is delayed or cancelled.

I.S.T.

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Dont forget to claim back the taxes. Not sure how you go about it, but you dont have to pay tax on a flight you dont go on, so you can claim it back.

No point, they charge you an admin fee which is almost equal to the tax you are due back :rolleyes:

serfboard

IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »

No point, they charge you an admin fee which is almost equal to the tax you are due back :rolleyes:

They certainly do. As do Aer Lingus and BMI Baby.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Not so bad then........

its online check in, so i shall just not check him in then. is that the best job yeah?

Traumadoc

Still if Aer lingus had their way only rich people would fly, the rest of us can catch the ferry, then the train.
If you dont like ryanairs T+Cs, fly someone else.

Im flying to manchester return next week for the cost of the taxi to the airport. (30 euro return)
I would much rather this than pay 200 euro return and be guarenteed a sandwich if the plane is late.