Best Omaha Session Ever

Hectorjelly

I went out for drinks last night, came home and logged on to VC. Somehow managed to build my stack from 300 to 3000 at 2 4 pot limit omaha, Im almost out of beer so if anyones around they should say hello now.

karlh

ridiculous well done.

just got laptop and broadband working in flat finally. gonna be putting some serious hours in on VC so sure ill be seein ya. will be a while before im playing 2/4. slowly slowly catchy monkey and all that.

any good holdem tournies worth playing over the weekend?

Hectorjelly

karlh wrote:

ridiculous well done.

just got laptop and broadband working in flat finally. gonna be putting some serious hours in on VC so sure ill be seein ya. will be a while before im playing 2/4. slowly slowly catchy monkey and all that.

any good holdem tournies worth playing over the weekend?

The 15k$ mtt is on Sunday, thats always good.

Hectorjelly

Ive always been lucky when Ive played drunk, but I think I should probably avoid situations like this, plastered at 8am in the morning with a sizeable proportion of my bankroll on the table (all won that night admittadly).

Sorry for the stupid post everyone!

Hectorjelly

Actually there was one interesting hand from last night, if I had of lost this I would of gone to bed. I raised on the big blind with 10 10 xx, I cant remember my side cards but they didnt matter. I made it 24$ and got called by two players. One a very very tight, good but too tight to be a danger, player called, and the other caller is an excellent omaha player, probably the only player that Ive come across over the last few weeks who I havent been able to outplay. Both me and the good player have around 1k stacks, and the tight player has around 200.

Flop is Q 10 4 with two spades, so I have the second nuts with no redraws on a draw heavy board. So I bet the pot, which was around 72. This is where it gets interesting. The tight player repots it to 200, and the other guy makes it 500.

I thought for a while and put them both all in. They both called and they had QQ and a flush and str8 draw respectively. The turn paired the board so I won the main pot for around 1700, and lost the smaller one.

This is a very marginal call as I could be drawing to one out for the whole pot.
The key to this hand was the tight player. He never semi bluffs, so when he goes all in I know he has a set. That means that I know where two of the three possible sets are, so its very unlikely that the good player had a set, and the tight player is so tight that its unlikely he has anything other than the nuts, ie QQQ.

I have a feeling that my call is probably - EV in the long run, if this situation occured 100 times Id probably lose money by calling, Any comments? Anyone else call here?

Lafortezza

Hectorjelly wrote:

Flop is Q 10 4 with two spades, so I have the second nuts with no redraws on a draw heavy board. So I bet the pot, which was around 72. This is where it gets interesting. The tight player repots it to 200, and the other guy makes it 500.

I thought for a while and put them both all in. They both called and they had QQ and a flush and str8 draw respectively. The turn paired the board so I won the main pot for around 1700, and lost the smaller one.

This is a very marginal call as I could be drawing to one out for the whole pot.
The key to this hand was the tight player. He never semi bluffs, so when he goes all in I know he has a set. That means that I know where two of the three possible sets are, so its very unlikely that the good player had a set, and the tight player is so tight that its unlikely he has anything other than the nuts, ie QQQ.

I'm not the most experienced Omaha player by any means but I think this was a terrible play, you should have dumped it on the flop. As you explained in your post you had to facing
1) top set
2) a big draw
The first raise on the flop could have been by any kind of decent draw, as it seems that HJ's Omaha style is LAG to put it simply. But the reraise to $500 just screams QQQ, or bottom set and nut flush draw or similar.

You have only got $100 ish of your stack in the pot and you're facing 2 raises and you only have 2nd nuts on a draw filled board, and are in first position.

The only good thing was that it was the small stack who had the flopped nuts.

Hectorjelly

lafortezza wrote:

I'm not the most experienced Omaha player by any means but I think this was a terrible play, you should have dumped it on the flop. As you explained in your post you had to facing
1) top set
2) a big draw
The first raise on the flop could have been by any kind of decent draw, as it seems that HJ's Omaha style is LAG to put it simply. But the reraise to $500 just screams QQQ, or bottom set and nut flush draw or similar.

You have only got $100 ish of your stack in the pot and you're facing 2 raises and you only have 2nd nuts on a draw filled board, and are in first position.

Im ahead of two of those possibilities, and position is meaningless when the pot gets this big, also it makes no difference how much money Ive put into the pot already. In order for me to behind for the main pot the very tight player would have to be on a draw, or have bottom set, which seemed unlikely.

deeferdog

[i had a very similar situation on a 2/4 pot limit table last week which completely bust me for this month online.
i have qq on a q 10 4 board. all the money goes in ($1700) bosco catches the case four for quads on the turn....

this is why you should never have your entire bank roll in play at one time. If i had only 10% of my bankroll in he would have had a house of tens and folded.....

mewso

lafortezza wrote:

I'm not the most experienced Omaha player by any means but I think this was a terrible play, you should have dumped it on the flop. As you explained in your post you had to facing
1) top set
2) a big draw
The first raise on the flop could have been by any kind of decent draw, as it seems that HJ's Omaha style is LAG to put it simply. But the reraise to $500 just screams QQQ, or bottom set and nut flush draw or similar.

You have only got $100 ish of your stack in the pot and you're facing 2 raises and you only have 2nd nuts on a draw filled board, and are in first position.

The only good thing was that it was the small stack who had the flopped nuts.

Tsk tsk Luke. Most of us know better than to dare criticise HJ's play. It's -EV.

Hectorjelly

musician wrote:

Tsk tsk Luke. Most of us know better than to dare criticise HJ's play. It's -EV.

I wasnt sure about the call but I dont think it was terrible. Please point out any rudeness or errors in my post.

Davey Devil

I think he was taking the piss.

Lafortezza

Hectorjelly wrote:

Im ahead of two of those possibilities, and position is meaningless when the pot gets this big, also it makes no difference how much money Ive put into the pot already. STFU lafortezza, you donkey-raping shít-eater. In order for me to behind for the main pot the very tight player would have to be on a draw, or have bottom set, which seemed unlikely.

I thought the middle sentence was a bit harsh.

mewso

Hectorjelly wrote:

I wasnt sure about the call but I dont think it was terrible. Please point out any rudeness or errors in my post.

Right thats it HJ. I'm never joking in one of your threads again.

Marq

lafortezza wrote:

I thought the middle sentence was a bit harsh.

I think it's unfair to criticize Hectorjelly for stating a fact.