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Dentist in Prague

  • 14-01-2005 6:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭


    Hi guys,
    A friend of mine is going to Prague and wants to get his teeth done. Can anyone recommend a dentist to go to or have any advice.
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    Try here Travel fourm they might be able to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    If he is being a medical tourist, he probably won't get any insurance / social insurance cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    as a dentist i can strongly recommend against it. what exactly does he want or need doing. a lot of fixed restorations?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭elivsvonchiaing


    Has he considered Malaysia - Penang - I think cheaper + holiday on beach to recover...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    lomb wrote:
    as a dentist i can strongly recommend against it. what exactly does he want or need doing. a lot of fixed restorations?

    Well... you would say that to someone considering taking potential business away from you, wouldn't you ;)
    What is it you don't recommend exactly - Czech dentists?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    um wel im not working at the moment but going back soon so no special interest.
    :p
    the main problem is i think getting dentistry is not like buying an oil filter for ur car. i think u need a relationship with someone so if things go wrong (and believe me they do) they get fixed.
    i know the economics of it believe me i as ive owned a practice for a few years.
    the main points are he will save nothing if all he needs are a small few fillings etc.
    if he needs more how can u trust someone over there- i know i know how can u trust anyone. but the point is the guys in prague who advertise i would stear clear with a barge pole. if u can find someone (generally in single chair practice, avoid all multisurgery practices both there and here like the plague) there whos nice then great! labour rates/ overheads/ lab bills and of course what dentist make is less there. remember the guys who advertise are nothing more than business men and those practices are built on doing a high proportion of expensive crown and bridgework much of it may not even be needed.
    anyway the main thing is to have a good relationship of trust with someone anywhere really but this can take alot of time to establish and u mite have to go around. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Check out the consumer choice magazine that came free with yesterday's (Saturday) Irish Times. It had an article on the cost of dental care in Ireland and featured going abroad for care.

    I spent E2,500 on work last year. I f I could have gone abroad and gotten in all done in one/few goes for less I would have. Unfortunately I have to be under antibiotic cover when I get work done, so I would have to wait for the antibiotics to clear out of my system before getting the next stage of work done. Overall, it took over 2 months to get all my work done!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    what exactly did u get done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    My experiences with Dentists in this country have been atrocious so I couldn't decry people going abroad for treatment. In the 3 years I had braces, the orthodontist spent about half an hour with me, let his nurses do all the work and the one time he came near my mouth to remove the brace himself (instead of getting the nurses to do it) he cut my gums with a pliers. He certainly earned his 4k. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭cajun_tiger


    i personaly wouldn't go to get my teeth done somewhere other than where i was living.. is he moving there and want a recomandation so as if something happenes he knows where to go??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    lomb wrote:
    i know the economics of it believe me i as ive owned a practice for a few years.

    Good. Please explain the price discrepencies between treatment in Northern Ireland and here ? The consumer guide in last Saturdays' IT was very detailed on pricing so I won't repeat the information.

    Why can work be done for significantly less north of the border ?

    Are their standards and technology really that inferior ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Lomb,

    Wondering how much a couple of bridges & some crowns would run to ?

    I need two & a further four crowns replaced (tetracycline damage)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Mutz


    Lomb,

    If I get Braces done up North, will Dentists down here in the Republic Tend to my braces thereafter or is it a descretionary thing with dentists?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Lomb,
    I just killed a man, do you know where i can hide the body?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    ColHol
    mad m
    read this forums charter with regards to unhelpful comments
    B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    iMax wrote:
    Lomb,

    Wondering how much a couple of bridges & some crowns would run to ?

    I need two & a further four crowns replaced (tetracycline damage)

    umm crowns here are about 500euro each generally sometimes a little more.
    bridges again are 500 per unit, so a 3 unit bridge is 1500. in this case traveling to say eastern europe can be a good thing to save money but u def need someone u can trust. avoid the uk unless u see a specialist ie with an MSc degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Mutz wrote:
    Lomb,

    If I get Braces done up North, will Dentists down here in the Republic Tend to my braces thereafter or is it a descretionary thing with dentists?

    Cheers

    no, u need to see the same person for the period of the braces. no dentist will fit braces unless u are able to go back at least every month to change arch wires etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    ColHol wrote:
    Lomb,
    I just killed a man, do you know where i can hide the body?

    umm under your bed! no one looks there :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Thanks Lomb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Good. Please explain the price discrepencies between treatment in Northern Ireland and here ? The consumer guide in last Saturdays' IT was very detailed on pricing so I won't repeat the information.

    Why can work be done for significantly less north of the border ?

    Are their standards and technology really that inferior ? use your imagination

    avoid the uk unless the person has a specialization. fillings are fine there, but avoid getting any fixed work done unless they have an MSc=expensive as the south. this is a generalisation. as ive said if u trust someone fine theres always exceptions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    lomb wrote:
    avoid the uk unless the person has a specialization. fillings are fine there, but avoid getting any fixed work done unless they have an MSc=expensive as the south. this is a generalisation. as ive said if u trust someone fine theres always exceptions.

    Are you seriously implying that your professional counterparts in the UK are less capable in general ? And that if they've hung out in college long enough to snag an MSc. then they're magically competent ?

    A quick trawl through the archives of this forum indicates that the dental profession in the Republic also has a fine selection of bad plumbers, muppets, spacers and vets trading as dental professionals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    of course the same applies everywhere. if u trust someone then fine. the advantage of having things done locally is generally u build up a relationship with them. also over time u can get an idea whether u trust them or not. its trust thats the key. if things dont work out its trust that sees it all thru. how is it possible to build up trust if ur going on ryanair to eastern europe every fortnight. i had patients who travelled a long way to see me and although i appreciated it i would have MUCH preferred them to be local. i just cant see how its possible to get dentistry done 800 miles away unless u *REALLY* like them and how can u like them as u dont even know them.i can honestly say the economics of doing a fixed restoration properly is 500 euro be it here or anywhere in the western world. if u get it for much much less than this ie half price u have to wonder. so if someone gets 500 euro here then at least u can be sure they were paid properly in the first place so that economics isnt an issue. likewise if it was done for half it is very very difficult to do it properly, it tends to be rushed and the lab bill and hence quality is lower.
    of course theres muppets here just like anywhere but my point is if the economics are right then the muppet here has no excuse whereas the muppets in the uk have an excuse, the funding is absolutely dire, although in truth this isnt really an excuse at all. i hope this answers your question. also a final piece of advice is to ignore reporters and the press in general. they have to write an article in a day or 2. how can any human have any understanding of anything in a day or 2. it takes years to develop this understanding. like the consumer association saying health tourism is an option. i can honestly say it is not unless u know the person so they havent a clue.
    also during the dot com years saying this and that is worth this and that whereas we know none of it was worth anything. reporters arent able to report anything simply because they dont understand it so how can they give a unbiased view on anything :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is it physically possible to like a dentist? (in a professional way, I've no doubt you're all lovely people sans the white coat :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    i hope so :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    Lomb,

    I agree with most of what you say; my own personal view is coloured by the fact that after 25 years of terror, neglect and decay I've finally found a dentist that I'm happy with, God bless her delicate drill.

    The relationship with your dentist is of course of paramount importance. And its worth paying extra to maintain and develop that. Again, its not like your buying CDs or cameras on the net; this is a personal and very important health issue, so pure monetary considerations should not dictate.

    However, like most Irish consumers, I feel ripped off a lot, and dentistry is no exception. So you can't blame people for griping and grousing and going cross border when the differences are that big.
    I'm not talking Eastern Europe either; it takes about an hour and 15 minutes to get to Newry now on the new motorways, so distance is not an issue when looking at the North.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    lomb
    what you are saying about trust is all well and good - I stayed with the same dentist for over 10 years and was happy with her, right up until I had to get a rush job done and found a dentist right beside where I work.
    When he took x rays of my teeth he asked me how old my root canal was - when I told him 2 years the shock on his face was obvious.
    He couldn't understand how she had found the stuff to put in my tooth as it had been replaced long since by a better product and she would have had to go out of her way to find it.
    Long story short, he recommended it be re-done before adding the crown, not only him but 95% of the dentists who attend the Root Canal Soc. which he goes to once a month recommended it be re-done.

    As it cost me over 500€, I want my money back and as far as I'm aware, there is no one body where you can go to complain about dentists here in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    yep but trust makes it right again so u perhaps could have attended the original dentist to put it right again if at all possible. there are many ways of root filling teeth, the old way of using silver points, then people switched to 'glue injecting' then rubber placement and now heated plastic with a rubber veneer on it. different dentists have been taught differently.

    it is true though that root canals are incredibly technical particularly on back teeth and even with the best will in the world some dentists are unable to perform them to a standard. however saying this there are many variables after all ur dealing with a person and say the person takes badly to the procedure then u have to rush it. also mistakes do happen even with the best will in the world and root tratments on back teeth are where they happen most. then there is the real stress that the dentist could be under or perhaps a large number of emergencies that day. could be anything. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭mad m


    Beruthiel wrote:
    ColHol
    mad m
    read this forums charter with regards to unhelpful comments
    B


    Sorry Beruthiel post gone.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    lomb wrote:
    there are many ways of root filling teeth, the old way of using silver points

    yup
    that's apparently what she used on me even though it's meant to be very out dated and not at all reliable :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    funny they still sell silver points in all the main dental catalogues so they must still meet european guidelines. they are quite dated now but were used for many years and im sure still are being used if the major suppliers are still listing them. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    Lomb,

    Very relevant post for me on the root canal - I'm scheduled to start one on a back tooth on Thursday !!!

    I'll definitely ask the question on the materials used.

    Anything else I should enquire about ? PM me if you wish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Lomb,

    Very relevant post for me on the root canal - I'm scheduled to start one on a back tooth on Thursday !!!

    I'll definitely ask the question on the materials used.

    Anything else I should enquire about ? PM me if you wish.

    not really just relax if u can
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Eastern European dentistry, whatever about individual dentists in Prague have a mediocre reputation, especially regarding finish.
    Is it physically possible to like a dentist? (in a professional way, I've no doubt you're all lovely people sans the white coat :D)
    I happen to have liked quite a few dental nurses, especially when they wrap their thighs around my knee. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Lomb can i ask a dentist question too please? The front of my teeth have been melted away by drinking way too much coke(i'm down to 1 bottle of Dr. Pepper a day HONEST!!). I'm worried that my teeth might break cos they are thin at the gum line - what can the dentist do to?

    Anyhoos I personally woudn't be up for going to Prague or somewhere like that - I'd prefer to have a dentist that I know so I'd have the peace of mind of being able to go back if there was a problem. I had some probs when I got my wisdom teeth out and I was able to call the dentist for advise afterwards. THANK GOD i was still in school at the time - Bank of Dad paid the IR£950 bill... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    tk123 wrote:
    Lomb can i ask a dentist question too please? The front of my teeth have been melted away by drinking way too much coke(i'm down to 1 bottle of Dr. Pepper a day HONEST!!). I'm worried that my teeth might break cos they are thin at the gum line - what can the dentist do to?

    Anyhoos I personally woudn't be up for going to Prague or somewhere like that - I'd prefer to have a dentist that I know so I'd have the peace of mind of being able to go back if there was a problem. I had some probs when I got my wisdom teeth out and I was able to call the dentist for advise afterwards. THANK GOD i was still in school at the time - Bank of Dad paid the IR£950 bill... :D

    never seen it on the front, usually coke affect roof of mouth side of upper front and back teeth making them thinner all over. if uve got v shapped grooves near the gum at the front (caused by excessive tooth brushing perhaps just after drinking coke (this weakens enamel disolving it slightly) and brushing teeth within half hour then removes it altogether and teeth dont bother u visually or are notsensitive leave em alone. just wait an hour or 2 after drinking coke to brush them in future so they can remineralise first and brush gently with soft tooth brush.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    tk123 wrote:
    Lomb can i ask a dentist question too please? The front of my teeth have been melted away by drinking way too much coke(i'm down to 1 bottle of Dr. Pepper a day HONEST!!). I'm worried that my teeth might break cos they are thin at the gum line - what can the dentist do to?
    This is not a dental board. Go to dentist! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Aww but i'm scared!!! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Well, in fairness, it seems like we now have a resident dentist!

    Maybe we should ammend the charter so that dentistry questions can only be asked of lomb (there goes your spare time mate! :P)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    nice one sleepy
    all I can see is dust he's running so fast!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    lomb wrote:
    as a dentist i can strongly recommend against it. what exactly does he want or need doing. a lot of fixed restorations?


    .........amd there was I thinking you were a mechanic from your input on the Motors forum ........!!

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Ei2JC wrote:
    .........amd there was I thinking you were a mechanic from your input on the Motors forum ........!!
    Well maybe when he's playing with his pliers, he pretends he's a mechanic or he is a mechanic and pretends he's a dentist. This is the internet, you just never know - which just goes to prove the point about Prague.


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