Headline "Parents to defy school protest again today "

Xterminator

Can anyone offer justification for intimidating young children trying to attend their school?

I find it difficult to put into word my feelings of disgust at the actions of the 'protestors'!

I read the comments of the MP fo the area, (DUP) in the irish times, and he seems to be worried that the RUC are making the situation worse by allowing the children to school! Someone ought to remind him that he represents the whole community. (In theory)

Finally the whole situation seems to be sparking riots etc. that both sides hav e been involved in!

TwoShedsJackson

They're pathetic. Dozens of grown men gathering to intimadate a bunch of ten year olds. What big men. They disgust me.

Magwitch

The Protestors do believe they have justification for their actions and this can be seen by the wholehearted defence they recieve from Unionist and Loyalist politicians.

I think what it does show is how far out of touch Unionism and Loyalism (the Cover name for Unionism) is with the real world. British and American Broadcasters were very quick to point out rhe comparisons with Alabama during the civil rights movement. This single comaprison has sullied the reputation, not only of unionist and loyalists, but of protestant people on this Island (American and European news reports have simply branded the protestors "Protestants") . At no point on recent events has any one group been so completely slated by global media for its actions and by inferal linked to organisations like the Klu Klux Klan through their actions and mind-set.

It is a public relations disaster for Unionism in the theatre of politics both outside and inside northern Ireland. The almost complete lack of visible positive action by Unionist politians who alternate between justification or silence points to a total inability to deal with the real world and allow this type of behavior in the democratic society they claim to represent.

It is Unionism (not Loyalism) that will suffer the consequences and justifiably so for their tacit and under handed support of Loyalist violence while claiming to be democrats. The idological links between the two branches are there for all to see and as such they deserve what will amount to increasing and deeper examination of exactly what they stand for.

Only recently has the Unionist leadership come out and decryed the notion of a "Protestant parliment for a Protestant people". This announcement by no means reflects the majority view in Unionism. It is this achellies heal which will lead to yet more difficulties for David trimble an the peace process and civil right and their supression both past adn present by the Unionist idiology is now firmly back on the agenda.

Unionism has yet to come into the 20th century, let alone the 21st.


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p.s. I post this as what I see as an acurate analysis of the situation - I do not support Sinn Fein or any other extremist orginisation that supports or allows violance.

Bard

"Concerned Residents of Upper Ardoyne" - acronym C.R.U.A.

Crua - Irish word meaning "hard"

Doubt that's intentional, somehow.

Ohh they're so "hard"...

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My opinion, as many others, - is that the actions of the so-called 'protestors', firing projectiles at and terrifying children as young as 3 YEARS OLD is utterly disgusting and without reason or excuse. The people seen to be doing this should have been arrested on the spot and taken away.

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'First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">From the Irish Times:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2001/0904/fro2.htm
A representative of the Concerned Residents of Upper Ardoyne, Mr Mark Coulter, yesterday read a statement claiming republicans had shown "a genocidal hatred of anything Protestant" by attacking homes and making local amenities nogo areas for Protestant children.</font>

Those bloody little schoolgirls should no better than intimidating protestants!

This guy, and I assume the entire organisation (if this is their mandate), has clearly not thought this out. These actions only inspire further hatred, with the dramatic difference in capabilities of the opposing sides.

In short: Go pick on someone your own size.

Lemming

These people truly are lower than scum. A single celled amoeba is better than them.

These kids have done nothing wrong. Whatever about older members of their community, but they are innocent victims in all of this. F**K these scum trying to destroy that childhood innocence. May they burn in hell be they loyalist OR nationalist.

Why oh why am I getting flashbacks of a similar incident back in 1960's southern america at a college ??? 3 Black students surrounded by armed police offers being led past white protesters?

yellum

Nice one Bard. Very apt.

Bard

The story continues to take a more sinister twist. Today one of the protesting sh*theads THREW A BLAST BOMB at the security forces who were trying to shepherd the kids to the school... That's right:- along with the stone throwing and verbal abuse some f**king moron THREW A BOMB in the close vicinity of 3 year old children in Belfast this morning!

There was one arrest... there should have been more... and the person found to have thrown the bomb should have the sh*t beaten out of him/her.

It's absolutely disgusting that any human beings could behave this way.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2001/0905/breaking3.htm

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Lemming

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bard:
The story continues to take a more sinister twist. Today one of the protesting sh*theads THREW A BLAST BOMB at the security forces who were trying to shepherd the kids to the school... That's right:- along with the stone throwing and verbal abuse some f**king moron THREW A BOMB in the close vicinity of 3 year old children in Belfast this morning!</font>

I heard on the news this morning that there was a bomb scare at the holy cross primary school. Was this a seperate incident? Or reporters getting the thingy confused with sonme f**kwit throwing a blastbomb near kids?

Xterminator

I cant believe that!

What W/\nkers!

I was listening to David Irvine sympathise with the residents, excusing their behavior almost; yesterday as I choked down my tea!

At least he called for the protests to stop, but intimated the parents of the children are allowing the IRA to use their children for propaganda?

Hmmm

X

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"Man, you go through life, you try to be nice to people, you struggle against the urge to punch ‘em in the face, and for what?! For some pimply little puke to treat you like dirt unless you're on a team. Well I'm better than dirt ... well most kinds of dirt. I mean, not that fancy, store-bought dirt. That stuff’s loaded with nutrients. I …I can't compete with that stuff."
-Moe Szyslak

Bard

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lemming:

I heard on the news this morning that there was a bomb scare at the holy cross primary school. Was this a seperate incident? Or reporters getting the thingy confused with sonme f**kwit throwing a blastbomb near kids?

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It was a seperate incident and happened on the Ardoyne Road itself as the kids were walking to school shortly before 9am. Someone who was "protesting" along the side threw the blast-bomb at the security forces who were forming the "protective corridor" through which the kids and parents were passing. Two security officers were injured, apparently, - one in the leg and one in the ear. This was shown live on Sky News.

Also on Sky News, Billy Hutchinson, a high ranking Protestant politician plainly stated that he was ashamed to call himself a loyalist today.

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Lemming

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bard:
It was a seperate incident</font>

May I just state again my complete disdain and UTTER CONTEMPT for these pieces of SCUM (I feel that scum is too kind a word to use).

I also found it sick that David Irvine practically defended them on TV last night. Terrorising children, no matter who they are or what is going on, is a truly dispicable act.

What is even more disgusting is that almost every other loyalist politician has said NOTHING. So they either agree with these pieces of filth lining the roads, or don't care.

Dr Tim

Without wanting to appears as if I condone any of the actions of Loyalist protestors, you've got to ask what pushes people to these depths?

They don't suddenly wake up one morning and decide they're going to hurl abuse at children.

Bard

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dr Tim:
Without wanting to appears as if I condone any of the actions of Loyalist protestors, you've got to ask what pushes people to these depths?

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Stupidity, ignorance and cowardice.

Dr Tim

All three of the above, but why only start doing it now when the whole problem has been ongoing for the goodness knows how many decades?

Its a symptom of a much wider disease, a disease that's not constrained either to Protestants or North Belfast.

Paladin

Yes. Its a disease called "as$hole-ism".
There are as$holes everywhere. Places like the north and israel, afghanistan etc. only give as$holes a political banner under which to operate as as$holes.

If you were to be honest everybody knows (unless they never leave their house) enough scum living near them to cause serious trouble if only they were organised under some banner. Its the same in the north and other troubled "hotspots", except that they actually *are* organised under some "cause" (not really a cause, more an excuse and any excuse will do them, 'cause they are as$holes)

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Its a symptom of a much wider disease, a disease that's not constrained either to Protestants or North Belfast.
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So yes, I agree with this.

Fidelis

What I find perplexing is that the Loyalists do not want the children to be escorted to school by the RUC.
Are they annoyed that they can't get a good shot in ?

cd2846

The vast majority of Northern Irish People are nutters. Why are you so horified over this issue? I believe they want it all to go on and on otherwise they would put different candidates in at elections. No it is money they want and as long as England pumps it into N.I. they will keep it all going.
It will neaver change until the UK cop on, which it seems they are to stupid to realise.

Lemming

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
Yes. Its a disease called "as$hole-ism".
There are as$holes everywhere. Places like the north and israel, afghanistan etc. only give as$holes a political banner under which to operate as as$holes. </font>

Can I just correct you and say that the term "as$holes" is too good a word for these pieces of filth ??

Blitzkrieger

I can't even begin to comprehend the insanity of abusing and intimidating children to the point that they need large amouts of police to escort them to school. Then they show even more madness throwing bombs at their own police force. They're not even human - not even close.