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Body pics in papers - necessary????

  • 30-12-2004 10:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭


    :mad: :mad: Is anyone else disgusted at the pictures of the masses of bodies in the papers, in particular yesterdays one in The Herald?
    Is it necessary that they print these pics. Those bodies are someones daughter/son/father/mother....I am disgusted at these pics.
    Another on the front of a tabloid today as a bulldozer pushes bodies along... :mad:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    ok, Tabloids tend to go OTT.. we all know that, but we can't be Ignorant to the truth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    Kersh wrote:
    :mad: :mad: Is anyone else disgusted at the pictures of the masses of bodies in the papers, in particular yesterdays one in The Herald?
    Is it necessary that they print these pics. Those bodies are someones daughter/son/father/mother....I am disgusted at these pics.
    Another on the front of a tabloid today as a bulldozer pushes bodies along... :mad:


    Its a fact of life pal, get over it . Would you rather pictures of kittens and flowers !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I remember seeing pictures of concentration camp victims' corpses in an encyclopedia as a kid. It's not a nice sight but you can't cut yourself out from reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    people dont just evaporate when they die. The pictures are there to show the horror of a disaster like that. As said above, thats life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    yeah.. In this day and age with the Information Super Highway, and the like.. You cant help but see this shocking but true images! Deal with it sunshine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭frodi


    I agree the tabloids go OTT. Yes bodies are a fact of disasters but you can picture them in less in your face ways. But then the tabloids never were big on taste and sensiblity. Vote with your wallet and don't buy them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Tabloids do go too far sometimes, but this story is going to feature dead bodies on any newspaper, such is the scale of the disaster. On the day the story broke and the first casualty figures came out, we all expected it to go higher, but nothing on the scale of where it is now, and it is still rising. The story has to be told and piles of bodies are part of that story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    If images of death and destruction prompt people to give money to help the survivors of this disaster then I am all for it.

    People have become so immune to horrendous scenes thanks to the violence we see on our televisions, that it takes alot to spur them into action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭elivsvonchiaing


    Think newspapers are reasonably principled when it comes to showing bodies - there are probably a lot more gruesome images they have held back - this is news not just selling newspapers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    frodi wrote:
    I agree the tabloids go OTT. Yes bodies are a fact of disasters but you can picture them in less in your face ways. But then the tabloids never were big on taste and sensiblity. Vote with your wallet and don't buy them.

    So wrap yourself in cotton wool? I think not, it shows what life is like !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,402 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    simu wrote:
    I remember seeing pictures of concentration camp victims' corpses in an encyclopedia as a kid. It's not a nice sight but you can't cut yourself out from reality.

    Agree. It is undescribably awful, but the pictures hammer the truth into your soul and mind

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    I dunno, it's not a nice sight but it's the reality of a disaster like this.
    Mass graves were shown on Sky News too because their main purpouse is to keep people informed of what's happening.

    This sort of thing is happening and we can't ignore it.

    But yeh I do agree that papers can go SERIOUSLY overboard with this sort of thing... Case in point showing the crumpled car wreck when Princess Diana was killed on the front page when they knew that nearly all of the UK would be shocked and appauled by it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭Kersh


    Its not that Im hiding from reality you clowns, Im asking is it really necessary. For Example if you lost a loved one there, then opened up the papers to see bodies being ****ed about left right and centre, I dont think it would please you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Evilution


    Kersh wrote:
    :mad: :mad: Is anyone else disgusted at the pictures of the masses of bodies in the papers, in particular yesterdays one in The Herald?

    No.
    Ever hear the saying 'a picture is worth a thousand words'?
    I don't really mind those photos - what I don't like though is when a cameraman shoves a video camera into a bereaved persons face and asks them whats wrong. Thats fukking insulting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Kersh wrote:
    Its not that Im hiding from reality you clowns, Im asking is it really necessary. For Example if you lost a loved one there, then opened up the papers to see bodies being ****ed about left right and centre, I dont think it would please you.
    While newspapers do go OTT quite often I don't see anything wrong with them printing pictures of dead bodies given that it is the true situation. I'd probably be more irritated is they just showed flooding or something like that. It might offend some peoples sensibilities but that's their opinion.

    Also, those kind of realistic pictures in new media are the main reasons for the high level of donation currently being received by relief agences to help those affected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    Kersh wrote:
    Its not that Im hiding from reality you clowns, Im asking is it really necessary. For Example if you lost a loved one there, then opened up the papers to see bodies being ****ed about left right and centre, I dont think it would please you.
    um the problem is that they have to be ****ed around like that because of the numbers. This isnt a case of a government mistreating the dead. Because of the numbers of dead and threat of disease, unfortunatly the bodies must be "****ed about left right and centre,". Theres no other way. As for the likelyhood of opening a paper and seeing a loved on the page ^_^

    As for it being necessary....um yes.What would you prefare to see?
    "125,000 people die in tsunami, but heres a picture of a goat"
    Of course these things are not going to please you, hence "disaster", but im afraid they are a part of life. The herald has to print these (although its agreed they can be OTT) becuase its job is to inform the rest of the world of the going on's.Its sad, and graphic, but people like you and me are out there searching through these bodies, recovering them, identifing them and burying them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Kingsize


    "So wrap yourself in cotton wool? I think not, it shows what life is like !"

    i agree with the above but whats a real killer is the twisted morality of these
    scumbag newspapers,e.g. they will critiscise violent movies & games music etc even though they also reflect real life.
    They print murder & rape cases etc in extreme salacious detail.
    C*NTS the lot of them.
    The "paddy" versions of the english red-tops & the herald are the worst they wont even admit to being tabloids..
    I only ever read the herald when i find a copy on the bus i wouldnt waste my money on the fucckin rag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    Count yourself lucky you live in Ireland (or the UK) where the media pretty much filters out anything slightly obscene or disturbing like pictures of dead bodies.
    Anyone who has seen the news or newspapers in other European countries will probably be shocked with the pictures they show. FOr that matter, even watching Euronews here is not the same as watching the 6 O'Clock news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭SolarNexus


    if you didnt want to be shocked, you shouldnt have picked up a tabloid. simple as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Kingsize


    whats more annoying is that the media frenzy is greater because there are
    people from ireland & the uk etc etc involved.
    the fact that millions of people are displaced & at risk of disease seems to take second place to the fact that "sidney & agnes from aldershot are safe in Phuket"
    there was a fucckin massive earthquake in iran on xmas day last year & it was on the news for about 2 days compare that to the constant barrage of "disaster porn" we are getting at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    Kingsize wrote:
    the fact that millions of people are displaced & at risk of disease seems to take second place to the fact that "sidney & agnes from aldershot are safe in Phuket"
    Thats rubbish, its an English News Channel, the safety of its own people is obviously of importance.I dont think a little ticker on the bottom of the screen is the english people "taking the place" of the millions of people at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭vibrant


    I saw the cover of one of the tabloids the other day and the photo was truly disturbing. I don't know if it's "better" that we see these graphic images... I felt ill after seeing them. How would they make a young child feel?

    But whatever our feelings on the images, it seems that they're being heavily censored in America (hey, big surprise there, right? ;) )

    For example, here's a link containing some of the more questionable leading stories on the disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    Evilution wrote:
    No.
    Ever hear the saying 'a picture is worth a thousand words'?
    I don't really mind those photos - what I don't like though is when a cameraman shoves a video camera into a bereaved persons face and asks them whats wrong. Thats fukking insulting.

    That's life and it's their bread and butter sadly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    Kingsize wrote:
    whats more annoying is that the media frenzy is greater because there are
    people from ireland & the uk etc etc involved.
    the fact that millions of people are displaced & at risk of disease seems to take second place to the fact that "sidney & agnes from aldershot are safe in Phuket"

    Don't think you can complain about sky news showing the names of british that are safe. that's a service I'd be pretty happy of if I knew somebody over there.
    Kingsize wrote:
    there was a fucckin massive earthquake in iran on xmas day last year & it was on the news for about 2 days compare that to the constant barrage of "disaster porn" we are getting at the moment.

    I'm not sure it's a good idea to compare disasters, however, while the Iranian earthquake killed about 43,000 people (about 30,000 injured and left about 75,000 homeless), there seemed to be a much more organised relief effort, probably down to the fact that it was just in one area. However, this recent earthquake, has already killed 150,000 people, and that figure is gonna keep on rising, who knows how many people have been left homeless, injured, orphaned. Also relief operations have to be spread among a good number of countries and islands. Some of these places will have had their economies decimated by this Tsunami. Seems to me it's perfectly understandable that there is more news coverage. After all, what else has happened that even comes close to the scale of this disaster in the last week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭elivsvonchiaing


    Cactus Col wrote:
    ... After all, what else has happened that even comes close to the scale of this disaster in the last week.
    My parents are in their 70's while there was a bad tsunami in '41 no-one gave a fúck - they only heard about it last week! Think this is the biggest natural disaster for at least 100 years!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Kingsize


    to all the folks getting on my case here- fistly I never mentioned the name of any english news channel so perhaps youve proven my point there
    its Fukkin terrible that people have been killed & admittedly its nice to know that somebody you love is safe so fair cop there .
    but the long term consequences for people living in the area are far more important than some wanker on the news complaining that he couldnt get a plane back to blighty for 5 days or any amount of chavs whose holidays were ruined.
    Secondly i wasnt comparing disasters but atitudes to them,& at the time i posted the death tolls were quite similar although sadly now not the case.
    i still think that the bam earthquake was just pushed out of the limelight because nobody in the uk & the usa really gave a sHYte
    rather like watching olympic events with no british competitors on bbc the reportage was somewhat half arsed.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    vibrant wrote:
    For example, here's a link containing some of the more questionable leading stories on the disaster.

    What's questionable about that? "No dead animal corpses" they ran away - as did the natives on some of the islands closed to the centre, hours before the waves hit. While the masses not only stayed on the beaches but more came to see where all the water was going. Pretty sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭vibrant


    monument wrote:
    What's questionable about that?

    Well, I found the fact that they decided to run such a banal story in the first place questionable and absurd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭*adele*


    i am theres 2 many pics!ppl arent respectin them at all, i saw a program and reporters contacted a man(who put up a poster 2 find his injured brothers g/f)just 2 find out his story not 2 help him


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