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Twelve-times tables

  • 29-12-2004 4:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,575 ✭✭✭✭


    12x1=12
    12x2=24
    12x3=36
    12x4=48
    12x5=60
    12x6=72
    12x ...

    I realise this is a little lower in the level of sophisitcation this board is used to.

    I was talking to a chinese guy recently. School children there don't do twelve-times (and eleven-times) tables, quite probably because they don't have the same concept of a dozen or 12d in a shilling.

    Will we be able to do away with the twelve-times tables with full metrification?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    They do do? We do do too.

    Or is it that they don't do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,575 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    ha-ha :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    lol.. i'm pretty sure they still do 12x tables.. the wonders of calculators


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I never did those in school (1980s) and we learned the metric system only. I thought that was typical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    well.. i was a lil after your time. :rolleyes: we had the Busy at maths books ... :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Yeah, we had "Busy at Maths" and "Figure It Out" too but it was all metric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yes they are still at it. Was tortured by a friend's child to "test" him about two years back :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    why not go as far as 16 times tables - in hex too,
    seriously 12 is a handy number as lots of things divide into it, so everyone gets a slice of the pie.

    some would say that 12 times 12 is gross


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    12 times 12 = 144... always easy to remember really quick for some reason..

    oh and you know the way the mind remembers better in 7's.. thats definatly true.. cos like when i was in like seniors.. i could do them the easiest.. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    12*12 is easy to remember, and time for a rant.

    If you like learning just squares, then you can do any multiplication like this:

    a * b = [(a + b)(a + b)]/4 - [(a - b)(a - b)]/4

    Ala the Babylonians with their crazy maths.

    << Fio >>


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    smiles wrote:
    12*12 is easy to remember, and time for a rant.

    If you like learning just squares, then you can do any multiplication like this:

    a * b = [(a + b)(a + b)]/4 - [(a - b)(a - b)]/4

    Ala the Babylonians with their crazy maths.

    << Fio >>

    You can alrite. Can't see it being a big hit amongst 9 years olds :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,575 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    is_that_so wrote:
    Can't see it being a big hit amongst 9 years olds :p
    Nor the 32 year olds. ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    smiles wrote:
    If you like learning just squares, then you can do any multiplication like this:<< Fio >>

    multipli-wha?
    just use addin'

    0+0+0+1=1 = 1 x 1
    1+1+1+1=4 = 2 x 2
    4+2+2+1=9 = 3 x 3
    9+3+3+1=16 = 4 x4
    .....
    100+10+10+1 = 11 x 11


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    And then we of course we move on to adding all the numbers between a and b. e.g. 1+2+3+4+5+6+....+98+99+100 = 101 x 50 = 5050


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Anyone feel sorry for the teacher Master Büttner who set some primary school kids the task of adding all the numbers between one and a hundred to keep them busy. And then have young mister Gauss come back with the answer a few seconds later...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I think there should be a progression to hexadecimal math. Far superior. 200 years time, all math will be in hex. Brilliant.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    What's so superior about it? (I assume you just mean arithmetic).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭cajun_tiger


    i was weird loved both 5, 9 and 12 times tables i thought it was a good way of helping later on in school life to know them all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ecksor wrote:
    What's so superior about it? (I assume you just mean arithmetic).
    Slightly quicker calculation.

    Em, that's about it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,575 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    seamus wrote:
    I think there should be a progression to hexadecimal math. Far superior. 200 years time, all math will be in hex. Brilliant.
    Binary is much better, with just your fingers and toes you can count to 2^20 (= 1048576, base 10). In hexadecimal you can only count to 14* ;)

    I much prefer octal.

    *= 20 (base 10)


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