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Should We Ban Boxing?

  • 19-12-2000 9:28am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭


    Well just what the topic says!
    In light of recent events should the sport of boxing be banned?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Jak


    No.

    It's a great sport for general all round fitness.

    It's one of the purest forms of competition.

    Nobody is forced into being a Boxer or watching the fights.

    The risks of the sport are plain to see. You are getting in the ring with the intention of knocking someone out or at least landing as many punches as you can. Obviously people get hurt, but quite a few die in Horse riding too and no one has asked for that sport to be banned.

    In any case, you would neveractually be able to ban the sport. There are too many enthusiasts and there will always be boxers.

    JayK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Excelsior


    no way.
    preposterous.
    it would go underground as jak said and be very much more sinister.

    if you dont like it (as i dont) just ignore it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    YES! Kickboxing is more fun to watch and much more skillful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    I personally find it immensely boring, but if folk want to get into a ring and punch each others lights out, then I don't see any reason to stop them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭Enygma


    They should ban the glove if anything.
    There would be a lot less brain damage if they did. More cuts and blood yes, but less serious long-term head injuries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Figment


    Shouldnt be banned.
    If they want to kill them selves, let them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Canaboid


    All moot points anyway because we don't have the authority to ban it. It would have to be done by government or something. Sheesh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Don't see why it should be banned if people want to do it, however the sight of two grown men getting in a ring and hitting each other til one falls over is not my idea of sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Jak


    I see the point Castor when watching some fights ....

    However -

    1. Some of us enjoy Boxing for the simple reason that it is a very pure form of competition. Clear rules, a one on one test of skills and strength and in my experience at amateur level, good natured.

    2. Watching any of the major Ali bouts, and the prematch drama, I feel there is far more there than just two grown men trying to knock each other over.

    All that said,

    I agree some of the much hyped contemporary fights have been a disgrace to the sport. Fights are taking place where the managers know damn well that one of the fighthers is simply outlcassed ... but they go ahead for the sake of profit.


    JAK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    It's rigged anyway. Only people who get seriously injured in major fights are those who wouldn't *agree* to loose.

    They should ban the WWF


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jak:


    1. Some of us enjoy Boxing for the simple reason that it is a very pure form of competition. Clear rules, a one on one test of skills and strength and in my experience at amateur level, good natured.
    JAK.
    </font>

    Jak, it's two people hitting each other. End of story. If I want to see or do that, I can hang around O'Connell Street any night and look at someone's bird the wrong way or call someone's pint a puff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hobbes:
    It's rigged anyway. Only people who get seriously injured in major fights are those who wouldn't *agree* to loose.

    They should ban the WWF
    </font>
    Yes i agree that Fupping WWF bs really gets up my nose, and look at all those people who go to those fupping matches to see a predetermined outcome!!!. I HATE IT, and i have 2 friends who watch it religiously who are trying to get me to watch it aswell. One of them says that the whole thing is like big soap opera with underlying plot lines, AND HES 19 fupping years old!!!!
    grrrrr.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Jak


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Castor Troy:
    Jak, it's two people hitting each other. End of story.</font>

    Not really Castor. It's two people trying to hit each other. Looking for weaknesses and opportunities while trying to defend against attack. Trying to psyche each other out. Tyring to wear each other out.

    Unfortunately, I have been in a few fights after pubs and clubs etc. as I'm sure most of us have (or at least witnessed) - That is people just hitting each other. That is not sport.

    Boxing in a ring is sport.

    Obviously though your point is valid in some ways ...

    But is it really fair to simplify all sport in such a manner?

    The long jump is just some bloke trying to jump into a sandpit.

    The Shot is some bloke throwing a heavy piece of metal.

    Soccer is just a few blokes kicking a ball about.

    All these simplifications are perfectly valid. However, there is far more to these sports than just that.

    There is the dedication, focus, effort, Speed, technique, flair .. etc etc.

    JAK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭regi


    This argument should be decided by unarmed combat.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kento-Shiro:
    Yes i agree that Fupping WWF bs really gets up my nose, and look at all those people who go to those fupping matches to see a predetermined outcome!!!. I HATE IT, and i have 2 friends who watch it religiously who are trying to get me to watch it aswell. One of them says that the whole thing is like big soap opera with underlying plot lines, AND HES 19 fupping years old!!!!
    grrrrr.

    </font>

    Your friend is right - it is a soap opera! I'll watch it if it's on the telly purely cause I laugh my ass of at each fight - it's comedy/entertainment at it's best!

    As for boxing - it's a very skillful sport - I've never done it, but I've "sparred" with a mate who had Connaught gold medals and I wouldn't have liked to have really fought him. To ban it would be more grief as it would turn into the underground pit fighting scenario and that's not good for anyone involved.



    All the best,
    kharn_sig.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">But is it really fair to simplify all sport in such a manner?</font>

    Usually, yes.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The long jump is just some bloke trying to jump into a sandpit.</font>

    Yep, that's about it.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The Shot is some bloke throwing a heavy piece of metal.</font>

    Yep, that's about it.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Soccer is just a few blokes kicking a ball about.</font>

    Bit unfair, I can't stand the game personally but like any squad based game, there's a fair degree of teamwork and co-ordination involved, as well as a certain small degree of tactical holding of areas. But essentially, yeah.


    As for the WWF - sorry, it's great. I'm not exactly a "fan" of it, and it's not a "sport" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's great fun to watch; perfect timing too, it's on at just that point on a saturday afternoon when you're surfacing with a godawful hangover, and need something mindless and amusing to keep the little men with the pneumatic drills from hammering on the inside of your skull...

    Ja,
    Rob



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Jak


    Take part in some of the above sports.

    Then comment on their simplicity.

    There is more to sport than pleasing the spectators. But spectators will never realise it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    You sayin somethin about meh pint conor?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Winning Hand


    The WWF is one of the funniest shows on at the moment, just leave you brain behind and you really get a kick out of it. It is just so over the top you cant look at it and not laugh.
    "LET THE MAN SMEEEEEELLLLLLLL"
    "WHAT THE ROCK"
    "IS"
    "COOKING"

    P.S i know its fake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    The WWF is exactly as Kharn says... a soap opera... nothing more, nothing less. There's no real 'sport' involved, as the bouts on the show aren't real competitions in that the outcome is pre-planned by script writers... thing is, it's very well written and can be as gripping at times as the best of soap operas, really holding the interest of its target audience like no other...

    Of course, it's target audience generally tends to be in the 8 to 18 age bracket... but there's nowt wrong with that wink.gif

    bard2.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    ... as for the topic ...

    No,... but we should ban those little squiggly styrofoam "S" things that come in boxing and packaging... they get everywhere...

    bard2.gif


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