It's a good day to die my friend!

C B

the Dutch Parliment is today expected to vote to legalise euthanasia. thoughts anybody?

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http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2000/1128/breaking48.htm

Figment

Im for it. Id like the choice if it ever came down to it.

Zapper

they Voted..it's legal.

IMo no1 should be forced to suffer if they don't want to. Raises an interesting question on suicide tho

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DeVore

Figgy... if it ever comes down to it... can I do it

I'd like the choice too but I'd much rather get one of those ailments where you are forced to take recreational drugs

DeV.

Paladin

Arent there doctors in jail for committing euthenasia?
What happens them?

SantaHoe

They get beaten with the usual bar-of-soap-wrapped-in-a-towel jobbie, and get raped by large hairy men.

Hannah

but are there? it said on the news that although up until now it was illegal, that the Dutch authorities have always been quite lenient.

Manach

In brief, this is a bad decision of the Dutch. It's just in my view Doctors should be healers and not thought of as executors.

SantaHoe

Well from what I've heard, it's been going on for about the last 20 years or so.
The authorities there were probably turning a blind eye to it, then said "ah fèck it, let's just make it legal".(?)
At least making it legal will bring it more into the open, where rules can be applied.
Morally I find the whole thing a bit unsettling. (Isn't suicide 'wrong' in many religions?)

Paladin

Well I mean in the broader sense arent there ppl in jail for euthanasia - not just Netherlands.
Of course this doesnt effect anywhere else, but if it became legal where someone was imprisoned for it, would they be released?

And Santa, I dunno about morally. I never put much thought into it, but just imagine..

a member of you family is riddled with cancers. Every meal they eat is liquid, and is almost always vomited. They are confined to bed in one room for over a year, and doctors expect them to survive for several more years, despite the fact they are living in agony - they cant move a muscle without causing torturous pain. Sometimes they bleed. From their eyes. Or their ears. They can no longer talk. Their eyes are almost blind.
To live this every day, makes them cry, which ,makes them sick, which often makes them pass unconscious.

This has been a reality. Would it be worth sacrificing your own morals to help this person you love out of their misery?

I dunno man. Its a grey area. I'd hate to ever have to make the choice.

SantaHoe

Well I think that example is a bit extreme, and sure, there'd be little question of taking the magic euth option there.
We already do that kind of thing for our pets, is human life any different?

But I just wonder what'll be next to become the norm.

How about if your body was mangled in an accident, and you had the choice to either die, or have your brain transplanted into a lab-grown clone?
It's all very scarey stuff.
/me lays off the drugs.

Winning Hand

The question is will the insurance companies pay out for people dying as a result of euthanesia cos some consider it suicide which insurance companies wont pay for such deaths.

Paladin

Originally posted by Dead{o}Santa:
Well I think that example is a bit extreme

Well in fairness santa, I think all examples of where euthanasia are carried out are extreme. Some worse than this. Not many better than it. In fact none better, just different.

SantaHoe

Sorry doctor Krevorkian, I didn't know you had all this statistical data at hand

C B

Manach,

Could we not view euthanasia as healing?

Manach

I don't think it's quite the same thing as
"Take 2 of these and call me in the morning",
so no.
Saying that, I admit there is a chasm of a difference between opposing euthanasia in theory and having someone you know suffering,
so I'd agree with Paladin, a grey area.