New competition - PRAI

malico

Due to an increased number of clients contacting us, national and international news coverage and collabiration, the PRAI is expanding its operation. A further two investigators are being sought to join the team as associates.

The competition will be running mid January with a view to selecting the members from a panel. We are now accepting membership applications. Please fill out the form at http://www.praofi.org/forms/application.doc and send it on to investigate@praofi.org

shelly04

Hey malico...
Jus wondering.. is there any rules to joining the group (over 21 ect...)

malico

There are no rules for entering the competition section. Just total honesty on the form and a genuine interest in joining. As pointed out on our own forum by the Deputy Leader:

Please do not apply unless you are 100% serious and interested in joining, the last group of candidates to apply for membership were all unsuccessful despite some of them being otherwise of the required standard because for reasons known only to themselves left the castle covertly as a group before the assessment was concluded. We have since heard that some of them felt that the written exam was pointless. That aside let me make it clear that we have very specific and proven reasons for using the testing format that we do and we are interested in things other than how well you score and the results of the last competition has only validated our methods as sound.

If your only interest is in attending for the experience then I would urge you to not apply for the competition and instead register to attend a public investigation. It takes alot of effort for us to organize an assessment and it is very frustrating to have to deal with timewasters.



For those who want to apply for membership this is how it will go.



Stage 1 Written Exam



Stage 2 Active Investigation



Stage 3 Informal Interview and discussion (Where everything makes sence if the process confused you; it's a pity the last group didn't wait to find out

Ro_79

Mindboggling.... :rolleyes:

Noopti

Hi there, this is Dave from the PRAI. In case none of you know me, I am an investigator with the PRAI and have been on, I think, 6 or 7 investigations. I have not yet personally encountered anything which I would deem to be concrete evidence of the paranormal, so that just shows how rare REAL paranormal events can be. I am also the guy who analyses any potential audio or visual evidence which we may gather on investigations, and trys to sort out the normal everyday occurances from the spooky paranormal occurance. In other words I debunk almost all "evidence" I'm shown(mostly in the form of "orbs").
On the hiring of new PRAI members, I will say this:

Any potential candidate needs to remember that the PRAI is a scientific organisation. We only want people who are methodical, logical and patient - but also have a keen interest in the paranormal and want to have a bit of fun along the way.
We don't want people who jump on any event and declare it to be paranormal without investigating the event fully with the rest of the team - that just damages the organisations credibilty. We are paranormal "investigators" afterall, and we certainly won't put forward any evidence of the paranormal unless we have ruled out any possible normal explanations.

So if your a calm and patient person, who has an interest in the paranormal, and is willing to take the bad(uneventful, cold nights) with the good(Real paranormal events!) then fill out an application form and let the investigating begin!

bug

glad to see you lot are expanding
wd

akari no ryu

Why are you using a word file?
Surely a html form being submitted to a php script or any equivalent would be better.
Also, quite liked the site. There's a couple of validation issues, but apart from that it looks well.

Ro_79

Yeah..it IS great that you guys are expanding. But, I for one won't be looking to join even though I am very interested in the investigation of the paranormal.

Why? Because I do not want to submit to an exam or an interview.
Most of you whom have been on the public investigation to Charleville II know me and know what I am like. I take things seriously and know pretty much about ghosts etc. So I feel I don't have to proove anything to anyone. and Besides its not a job interview I am going for so why should I have to prove myself worthy?

I also don't like the way the group is going, for one thing all you guys seem to be interested is, is in fame and fortune, being "exclusive" and getting your name in the paper rather than a serious investigations of ghosts. Which is a pity.

Sorry if I have offended anyone but it is how I feel. Anyway, good luck in your group and hope it all goes well for you.

Noopti

Why? Because I do not want to submit to an exam or an interview.
Most of you whom have been on the public investigation to Charleville II know me and know what I am like. I take things seriously and know pretty much about ghosts etc. So I feel I don't have to proove anything to anyone. and Besides its not a job interview I am going for so why should I have to prove myself worthy?

Thats your opinion, and that is fine. You don't feel like you need to prove yourself. Fair enough, but we only want people who are serious and good, and I'm pretty sure people who have these qualities wouldn't mind doing the test and the interview because they know they have what it takes and have nothing to worry about. They know what they can and can't do and are not worried about being judged unfairly because that won't happen. People who are confident in their abilities won't be up on a high horse thinking they don't have to prove themselves. We in the PRAI see what we do as a job, albeit an unpaid job. We take it as seriously as a job because our clients expect professional and expert advice. If you "take things seriously" and "know pretty much about ghosts" I don't see what your problem is with partaking in an informal interview? Surely you are confident in what you know?
So lets say we know you and what you can and can't do, but someone else is on their first investigation and we know nothing about them. So we have to see which one of you is suitable for the organisation. Do we give the person we don't know the tests and interview and not give it to you because some people know what your like? I'm sorry, but we don't discriminate between people who we think know a lot and people who we don't know. The tests, interview and investigation proves who is good enough.


I also don't like the way the group is going, for one thing all you guys seem to be interested is, is in fame and fortune, being "exclusive" and getting your name in the paper rather than a serious investigations of ghosts. Which is a pity.
Fortune? It costs us money to do what we do and we don't charge our clients a single cent. Hardly the actions of people who are seeking nothing but fortune. As for fame.....I don't know about you but I hardly wish to be known as the "ghostbuster" from the newspaper or the radio. I am quite happy to be unknown, especially considering the stigmatism associated with what we do.

Sorry if I have offended anyone but it is how I feel. Anyway, good luck in your group and hope it all goes well for you.
No offense taken.


This thread is for people serious about applying to join our group. Its not for people to vent their opinons on how they think we do things badly, or what they think our motives are. The fact that we are growing and gaining recognition is testimony to the fact we doing what we do well.

keu

"ghostbuster"

but this is the thing, ye are not ghostbusters. Its not a case of irelands version of "most haunted", there are no qualified mediums or psychics involved, its just scientific querying.
If genuine people had genuine issues with their dwellings, scienitif analysis doesn't really help them if they want to have their homes "excorcised", so its not actually a public service, moreso a personal adventure for those seeking "experiences".
know what I mean?

So if your a calm and patient person,

thats me out then

keu

oh..but I wish you all well anyways.

Ro_79

Actually, I am more serious in this than you think.. I am almost a trained Parapsychologist. Goes to show how much you know about me.

Actually I am not on a high horse...far from it. I just think that to have a passion in a subject such as investigating the "paranormal", it should be enough... why should one be subjected to an exam to prove they are worthy and of what they know..shouldn't an informal meeting be enough? You can usually judge from the way a person behaves whether he/she is interested and is serious about the subject. Also investigating the paranormal is a learning experience and helps you evolve as a person. there is no such thing as knowing everything about the "Paranormal" as there is so much in it that is unknown. So why even have an exam with a fixed set of answers...as most of the the answers regarding the paranormal are based on mostly a hypotheses.

You say the tests prove what he/she knows and if they are "good enough" it looks to me you are the one on the high horse.

You don't discriminate?, right..I assume yourself, Ryan and the others have taken the tests as well as the interview? And also are there the same amount of women members as well as men?

recognition..hmm you say you are happy to be unknown yet you are proud of recieving recognition...bit of contradiction there buddy.

Also, a certain member of your group I have noticed, seems to spend a lot of time shutting out some people who are really serious in joining this group. Why are you not giving them a chance?

Anyway never mind I am not going to argue with you. It's just my observation from what I have seen from several members behaviours..

I won't post on this thread anymore...

Oh yeah and..Merry Christmas everyone

keu

Merry Christmas Ro.

Oryx

I might be coming from the same place as Ro on this one. I respect that you have to have some formal method of selecting members, or else its just a party that anyone can come along to. Any kind of job requires a selection process. I have sent an application to you guys, albeit a tongue in cheek one. What I would hope to offer the group I dont think would come over adequately in any kind of exam, it has to be hands on practical! If you can validate anything I come up with hooray, if not we shake hands and go home. This is why the exam interview thing is not for me, only Ro can say if hes of the same mind, and he aint posting anymore

Redshift

KatieK wrote:

I might be coming from the same place as Ro on this one. I respect that you have to have some formal method of selecting members, or else its just a party that anyone can come along to. Any kind of job requires a selection process. I have sent an application to you guys, albeit a tongue in cheek one. What I would hope to offer the group I dont think would come over adequately in any kind of exam, it has to be hands on practical! If you can validate anything I come up with hooray, if not we shake hands and go home. This is why the exam interview thing is not for me, only Ro can say if hes of the same mind, and he aint posting anymore

The written component is only a small part of the overall process which is largely practical; a poor score in the written exam doesn't necessarily mean you won't be selected. But it does reveal other skills and attributes that might not shine through when wandering around a castle in the dark. A large part of our work is analytical IE going over video, audio and photo evidence which needs to be done with skill and accuracy and the written exam might reveal a candidate with a flair for that sort of work, an ability that might not be apparent with a purely practical assessment. It can also be used as a test of patience for example with a puzzle that takes time and patience to solve and if you're going to be a paranormal investigator you need patience in bucket loads. In the last assessment one section of the exam was very very difficult and we expected nobody to score well in that section, but the primary reason for it was to see how people would react to a potential no win situation if anybody had got a good score we would be quite frankly blown away. Another important function of the written part is that it provides an opportunity for people with less dominant personalities to shine through.
When combined with the other components it provides a balanced picture of everyone’s abilities.

The interview part is very informal and gives the candidate some one to one time with the team to discuss how the whole process went for each individual and to ask questions.

Whether we like it or not the paranormal field attracts more than its share of oddballs and we have got to be sure of who we are taking on both for us and our clients protection. We take our work deadly seriously and if a candidate can't sit down for a 45 minute written test and a 10 minute interview then we would have to question their commitment.