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Another AA question

  • 20-12-2004 12:24pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭


    Fitz Friday tournament, blinds at 100/200, I have approx 6K, pick up AA UTG. I raise to 900, and the button calls (he has approx 4K left).

    Flop is AQT rainbow... I think for a few seconds and, to hell with, move all-in. Is this really the right move? I want to make some money with this hand, and if he's hit the flop (either a pair or a draw), then I reckon he'll call a smaller bet... but if I take this route then I really have to move all-in on the turn no matter what comes.

    So, is it worth making the smaller bet to try and make some money with the hand, with the danger of losing a big pot?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Fitz Friday tournament, blinds at 100/200, I have approx 6K, pick up AA UTG. I raise to 900, and the button calls (he has approx 4K left).

    Flop is AQT rainbow... I think for a few seconds and, to hell with, move all-in. Is this really the right move? I want to make some money with this hand, and if he's hit the flop (either a pair or a draw), then I reckon he'll call a smaller bet... but if I take this route then I really have to move all-in on the turn no matter what comes.

    So, is it worth making the smaller bet to try and make some money with the hand, with the danger of losing a big pot?

    Just bet 1500 and hope he moves in. People love to make dodgy calls/raises so give him every opportunity. Its not often you hit top set so you have to make the most it. If you go all in here JK will always call (hard to push the nuts off a hand) but Ak or Aj might fold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    Can't see many people calling 20% of their stack with KJ or J9 in this position. Maybe A high Ace or 88-JJ. If rainbow I would put a half pot size out and see if I can milk it. You are going to call a reraise here anyway as you most likely have way the best hand and if someone has made the straight you still have a few boat outs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    Personally in this situation I would make a medium bet to get an idea where i stand, problem however with this is that the board is looking very dangerous and the turn/river could bring a card that will give them the straight, that is if they have not already hit it with KJs.


    imo, you should not be trying to milk any pot with cards like that on the board. Either place a bet to know where you stand or push all in (imo the wrong move and too risky).

    If the cards came AJ6 Rainbow or some flavour where there is no straight/flush draw, then it is well worth milking at minumum risk to your stack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Okay, moving all-in was definately too hasty... but a few points on the opponent: definately not a tricky player, so I doubt he would have tried to move me off the pot if I put in a smaller bet. Also, he's one of those players who thinks KQ, QJ, etc, are monsters, so my feeling was that he hit a pair AND a draw, or 2-pair, so I was hoping that he'd call the all-in if he had one of those hands.

    As it happened he folded, saying that he had a queen... which totally confused me because I don't see what kicker he could have (after calling the pre-flop raise) where he wouldn't call the all-in. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Even bad players will make the occasional good fold, especially if its an all in bet. I often see players call almost half their chips (or their opponents chips) off preflop not realising that they have just committed themselves to the pot.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Aye, I've seen (and to be fair, *done*) that myself.

    Personally, my rule is that if there is two-to-anything on the board then I make them pay above the odds for the next card so I'd bet. With only one person drawing I might let them see if if its a flush draw because even if the turn comes a third of that suit, the chances of a single player having two of that suit preflop are decently slim and thus little threat. The straight is a bit less easy, any K or J has a draw as does 89 and 9J. In think in this situation I'd bet out, probably a pot sized bet.

    DeV.


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