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havok*

Can some1 please answer me this, when is it right on wrong to tip some1????
I got into a pretty hecktic argument over tiz a few days ago.
I werked in a bar for a few years when i was ikkle and made easily money off them then the job was payin me.
But doe's it get to da stage when tippin some1 is degrading? as in U need it more then i do kind of thing??
I'm secssful and ur not??
like I don't need ur charity kinda thing?
thoughts?

Shiminay

Clearly you need it to get spelling lessons!!!

I wouldn't see tipping as a bad thing. It can be bad when the customer is made feel they have to tip!

I worked in a bar for a year and tipping was an added bonus, but I never relied on it to pay for whatever it was I needed.

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Blitzkrieger

I think it's ****e. If the person isn't paid enough they should raise their wage and the prices. If they are getting paid enough there should be no need to tip.

TwoShedsJackson

lol, herr Blitzkrieger of the Gestapo gets his spake in as usual Depends on you, waitressing, lounge staff etc. are all badly paid $hite jobs usually with crap hours, and bosses who are complete gits.

I tip in a restaurant if the food and service has been good or better, usually tip taxi drivers, however as memorably mentioned in Reservoir Dogs, the people in McDonalds are serving you food but no-one feels the need to tip them.

10 per cent to lounge staff or taxi drivers (except where said driver is a bigot or a$$hole), lounge girl tip in accordance with the size of her tits

SheroN

I tipped a taxi man once in a drunken state...was getting out of the taxi and i just went....'there's something for yourself and handed him 5p'........tipping is great

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Excelsior

i tried to tip a girl in mcdonalds once and she got into a load of trouble with her boss for taking it! she had had a series of craphole customers which she dealt with perfectly. i just realised how bad a job she had and how well she was doing. then the boss sees it and takes it off her! my fears about her crappy job were verified.

as a poor student myself i can't always afford to tip well. but if i can afford to buy something then i can afford to give 10%-15% to the poor soul who has to make me my coffee or my pizza.

i just empathise with how bad a job they have. i doon't think there is a real excuse genuinely for not giving a little tip, bar awful, plain rude service or a service charge included in the price. and i dont think anyone minds if the tip is small.

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MiCr0

y would u tip a taxi driver?
ffs look at what they charge...

Blitzkrieger

I'm not disputing they have a crap job and get paid fupp all - I still do it part-time. I just think that they should be paid a decent wage and it should be up to their employer to reward them if they do well. I'm a poor student too but I'd be willing to pay that little bit more for things, to ensure the staff are properly paid.

Von

The only place I ever tip is Sufi's the late night cafe.

TwoShedsJackson

Originally posted by Blitzkrieger:
I just think that they should be paid a decent wage and it should be up to their employer to reward them if they do well.

Indeed - meanwhile back to the Basic Tenets of Capitalism Pt. 1: McDonalds et al are not in business to pay their workers a decent wage or reward them if they do well, except perhaps promoting them to management so they can annoy the next crop of drones.

They're in business to make money, 30 billion dollars a year income was the last figure I heard. The profit margin on what they sell is miniscule therefore they must shift a massive quantity and minimise costs in all other areas.

The easiest area to do this is to pay minimum wage because there will still always be loads of people willing to work for it. The very high staff turnover ensures no-one is interested in forming or joining a union which might be able to negotiate better wages and conditions etc.

Blitzkreiger, if you would be willing to pay a bit extra then you should be willing to tip - they aren't taxed on tips as they would be on extra wages, or is it the concept of giving of your own free will and generosity rather than what you have been 'charged' that gets on your wick?

Canaboid

Tip Taxi drivers ? Never. Stab 'em in the eye with my biro ? Possibly.

LegacyUser

When I was working in Superquinn for a few months 2 years ago, the wage was 2.15 an hour ( I was only 15 ). Straight from the horses mouth: they are gits, superquinn staff are so unbeleivably stuck up its unreal.I normally worked at the bagging sections of the checkouts and rarely got tipped, and if I did it was 50 pence.
But anyway, one time around x-mas I made over 30 quid in tips in only 4-5 hours. This dodgy looking lad that looked like a stripper or something asked for someone to carry his bags out ( thats another service courtesy of the benevoulent Mr. Feargal Quinn who pays his staff 2.15 an hour ).Turns out he owns this screamingly gorgeous Porsche 911 and tips me 5.50, great stuff actually

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Shinji

I don't feel that I ever have to tip someone, even when they have these blaring "SERVICE CHARGE NOT INCLUDED!" things on their menus or whatever. However, if I feel that the person serving me has been particularly pleasant, attentive and generally made the difference between self-service and waitered service, then I'll happily tip a few quid. It's worth it when you're planning to stay somewhere a good while; if a place is worth coming back to, it's worth leaving a tip. And if you do leave a tip, you'll probably be treated well next time, too...

Ja,
Rob

Excelsior

shinji, you probably hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. if the service makes you feel good, then tip well.
the only question then is how good does good service have to be, and that is totally personal.

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Stephen

AH phoenix...

I remember my days in Dunnes Stores - I was usually packing pet foods there (ugh... pallete after pallete), and the few times I had to pack bags at the checkouts, or go outside in the freezing november night and keep an eye on the trolleys...

Never was I tipped once. The wage was £2.60 per hour (I was 16). Addmitedly, they did increase their minimum wage to £3.55 shortly after. The only fun part of that job was the fun-and-games one could have involving a forklift

The only skills I ever learned while working there were how to drive a knackered old electric forklift and how to shift palletes like there's no tomorrow...

Thank christ that's in the past.

I currently work for statoil and get paid better wages and do better, easier work in a far more friendly and informal environment.

Dunnes Stores = PANTS

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Mills

During my time in Super Value (which is over, thankfully) there were a few women who tipped me. One in particular was in a wheelchair and asked me to assist her with her shopping, I did so and she tipped me £1 and told me to get a scratch card when I was finished loading up her car, I bought a scratchcard and won 50 quid First and last time Ive ever bought a scratchy too, so I was well pleased.
For me getting tips was not just about the extra quid in my pocket at the end of the day, it made me feel happier about the job knowing that some of the customers actually appreciated what I was doing and didnt just treat me as their personal servant for the duration of their stay in the shop.

I'd never feel obliged to tip someone, but it's a nice gesture to leave something for them if you think they did their job well. I've got absolutely no time for people who hint that you should leave them a tip, more deserving of a good slap if you ask me

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Vincent

I just finished working in Texaco yesterday, bak to school in few days for the fuppin leaveing cert anyways i worked there for about 9/10 weeks and got about £150 in tips for washing cars yessssss!!!!!!!

So while i got £4 a hour i really got about 5 due to tips

My opinion on the matter is if u like the service tip, or if u're a regular customer tip aswell.

Take it

I’m a part time barman and was a lounge boy tips can effect how you are going to be looked after, if you tip the lounge staff well they will be over at you table cleaning ashtrays taking glasses and orders. Where if your not tipping they wont be over to the table as much because it makes sense in a way. I know its there job to serve but which table would you look after the one that’s not tipping or the one that is i.e. go home with more money or less. At the moment tipping is becoming more popular as lounge staff come home with more money then me.

Girls (good looking ones) get a unreal amount of tips I know one girl who makes up to and over £50 on tips for 7 hours work on top ove her wages which when added up is two nights work for me.

Tipping is not seen as I’m successful your not or I pity you it is seen as I’m happy with my service.

I also had a rough with someone while working on the floor that I had left him a 1p short on his change for ciggys. And looked after a table which was running a tab which came to £250 over the night and I didn’t get a fukken Euro of the ba$terd$ after all the running around I did for them.

Regulars’ don't seem to tip as they don't need to and maybe there right, as they are a valuable enough customer to the business.

Blitzkrieger

Originally posted by Take it:
Girls (good looking ones) get a unreal amount of tips

Be honest tho - would you want a bunch of sad perverts staring at you all night thinking they can buy you for a few quid?

Excelsior

i dont think thats the way they look at it. i know a girl who used to earn £7 an hour out of tips at the weekend sometimes and she was happy to put up with it as generally ppl were being fairly innocuous in their come ons. it would be something like, "would you like to get a drink" or something along those lines. she was never groped or anything but in the end she left because of sexual harrassment from her boss.
still, that tipping is probably over the top a little.

TwoShedsJackson

http://www.economist.com/editorial/freeforall/current/index_wb0192.html

an article on tipping, why it's done, and why it ain't even popular in the States

Excelsior

you are becoming a big economist fan recently castor. its great isn't it?

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TwoShedsJackson

My boss gets it in work, I read it for the political and social stuff they have in. Some weeks there's fu<k all in, other weeks it can be a good read.