LCD / Flat Panel Displays

bringitdown

Generally is a 16ms response time on flat panels suitable for gaming?

Pixmania have a Belinea 17" - here for E281, anyone have opinions on this?

Or: recommend me a budget flat panel with half decent performance....

Cheers

bringitdown

BUMP - no one can offer me any advice? DVI vs. Analogue?

I am MAN

If you are a big gamer dont go for a flat panel

bizmark

There fine tbh im useing one right now with a 16ms response time i play vietnam hl2 rome total war etc on it with no problems however be aware that these things dont do shades of black to well (or maybe thats just mine)

bringitdown

Space is an issue, my CRT takes up >50 % of my wee computer desk and a flat panel would be a nice space saver.

Apart from getting one with decent reso. and good response time are there any gotchas?

koneko

I am MAN wrote:

If you are a big gamer dont go for a flat panel

Generalisation. People post this without backing it up all the time. You're basing this on technology from years ago. CRTs might be a little bit better for games, but this whole "TFTs are no good for games" statement is balony.

The lower the response time the better, bringitdown. I have a 12ms 19" TFT and it's grand for games. Check reviews for the specific models you're looking at, in particular on techie/games websites, as it should cover games and video which would be where smearing/blurring is apparant.

DEFINITELY get one with DVI input. VGA often won't look great, particularly in games. As long as your graphics card has DVI output you should definitely get that.

bringitdown

Cheers koneko, thats what I needed to know...

koneko

If you need any specifics, pm me any time. http://www.hardforum.com (although, it is down at the moment) has a board for Displays, there's usually a lot of user experience posts there for specific screens, and most people there are into their games so it's a good first stop (besides Google).

WillieDH

you need 8ms for good gaming!!!

neokenzo

I havent heard a 8ms TFT before. MY TFT is 16ms and plays all the game well. I have been happy, dont have any problems at all, well maybe just one, I want a bigger TFT

Ave

WillieDH wrote:

you need 8ms for good gaming!!!

A good 16ms panel will suffer no ghosting.

Dempsey

My TFT suffers no ghosting and its a 25ms.

bizmark

mine suffers none and its 16ms

skywalker

WillieDH wrote:

you need 8ms for good gaming!!!

complete crap.

ive read all the monitors out now rated at 8ms, 8ms is their best response time not the average, and they rate as high as 25ms at times. whereas the 12ms upwards ones are the average rating. i also have a 12ms 19" and second konekos recommendation. its a fantastic beast,

KdjaCL

Some points of note in the oul tft vs Crt for gaming

"grand for gaming"
"Fine for gaming"
"plays games well"
"perfect"

Guess which is CRT and which 3 are TFT, i want a TFT for gaming but they not good enough atm, hope it changes soon monitor is bleedin huge

kdjac

iganokage

new 17" TFT 16ms, works great on all games for me... and 450:1 contrast ratio alleviates most (if not all) problems ppl have with colour and depth reproduction on TFTs.

and its a budget one! n birds, 1 stone.

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/hardware/monitorsanddisplays/productView.htm?quicklinx=3jd0

Ave

KdjaC wrote:

Some points of note in the oul tft vs Crt for gaming

"grand for gaming"
"Fine for gaming"
"plays games well"
"perfect"

Guess which is CRT and which 3 are TFT, i want a TFT for gaming but they not good enough atm, hope it changes soon monitor is bleedin huge

kdjac

And I suppose you've tried the likes of 172v(16ms), viewsonic vx912b(12ms) and HIQ L90D+(8ms)?

Dempsey

KdjaC wrote:

Some points of note in the oul tft vs Crt for gaming

"grand for gaming"
"Fine for gaming"
"plays games well"
"perfect"

Guess which is CRT and which 3 are TFT, i want a TFT for gaming but they not good enough atm, hope it changes soon monitor is bleedin huge

kdjac

Whats your definition of a TFT being "not good enough" for gaming? Its like saying you wont be able to watch a film unless ya have a Home Theatre System.

WillieDH

skywalker wrote:

complete crap.

ive read all the monitors out now rated at 8ms, 8ms is their best response time not the average, and they rate as high as 25ms at times. whereas the 12ms upwards ones are the average rating. i also have a 12ms 19" and second konekos recommendation. its a fantastic beast,

I beg to differ !!

skywalker

WillieDH wrote:

I beg to differ !!

right. well unless your gonna expand on that im standing by my assertation that your orig statement was crap

Ave

skywalker wrote:

right. well unless your gonna expand on that im standing by my assertation that your orig statement was crap

Dont worry bout him, he loves spouting idiotic nonsense!!!!! and then refusing to back it up.

Dempsey

Skywalker, you need to back up your earlier statement with a datasheet or a review by a very credible website. As for WillieDH, ya cant discredit anyone's statement without a good reason or, better, PROOF.

bounty

im sure theyre fine for single play games... but, anyone play much counter strike online with a <16ms tft?

any issues? even minor noticable difference?

these things cost too much for just space saving

Dempsey

I have, its fine. Doom3 and Fry Cry look class on it too. (Need a stronger GFX card for Doom3 though:))

neokenzo

My TFT has a 16ms responce time and its great playing Far Cry and Counter Strike online. No problems at all.

skywalker

http://www.behardware.com/news/imprimer/7114/

there ya go dempsey. Ive read it in several places but thats the only source i can find atm.