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What do you think of the N.W.O.A.H.M?

  • 02-12-2004 8:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭


    Is it actually a new wave of american heavy metal or is it a way to promote all these bands(Killswitch Engage,Chimaira,Shadows Fall)together?

    I love it! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Beekay wrote:
    N.W.O.A.H.M?
    Acronym too long.... getting a headache!!

    :)

    Uhhhh.. from what i've heard of each of them all sound very similar, to be honest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    In a word, rubbish.

    And all this "New Wave Of Post-Industrialist Avant Garde Doom Fusion" bull**** is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    But it must be good for the bands when they are being
    called the future of heavy metal.
    But no matter what you know recod labels will wreck
    it like they do with all other metal sub-genres.

    (Nu-metal!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Shadows Fall have some really good stuff, but their acoustic stuff is simply unbelievable, the song 'lead me home' is the only song I would ever call truely beutiful. As for their normal music (ie: heavier stuff) its all very samey, as goes with pretty much all bands of the genre. If you want good metal all you need is Finland, Sweden, and Norway, all of which far superior to anythign that has came out of America in a long long while as far as heavy/fast metal is concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Steven


    N.W.O.A.H.M
    New wave of anti histamine manufacturers?
    No way over a high market?
    Night will only agitate heavy metalers?
    What the hell?

    *rereads first post

    Oh. Seems like same stuff, different name to me. I'm not a big fan of assigning stuff to genres named to appeal to certain demographics. There are only three genres I need to know. Good music, bad music and Love Metal *shudder*.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    Oh, absolutly ****. The biggest load of crap ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    I like God Forbid and Shadows Fall. Killswitch are okay-ish and so are Chimaira. I don't like the way other American bands are cashing in on the N.W.O.A.H.M banner when they weren't even on the tour.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    I like Shadows Fall. Not really bothered about the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    What the hell does NWOAHM stand for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    John2 wrote:
    What the hell does NWOAHM stand for?
    Read the first post..

    N.W.O.A.H.M = New Wave Of American Heavy Metal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    It's like the NWOBHM except American.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    I think metal hammer were the first to call it that.

    They keep on sayin Hatebreed are part of
    it but they were around ages before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    It's load of absolute, diluted, watered down, pop-frenzied, hyped-up mallcore bull. Nu Metal for the Nu Millennium. That's all. You'll recall them all saying that nu metal was the future of metal. Didn't make it good, now, did it? Slipknot have lots of fans, does that make them good? No. What it means is that they're accessible. It's the sole reason they brought back Headbangers Ball. MTV had a new heavy music line to market so, just like they did with nu-metal, they used their sole outreach to the heavy music demograhpic to shamelessly promote their centrally controlled garbage so as to corner yet another market. Nu-Metal failed but this stuff, which they've created a pseudo-underground image for( what I call the FUNderground: selling loads of albums but "no one knows about them," yet everyone does), seems to be working. What with their "in" fashion sense and heavy-then-happy or emo sounds, they're bound to succeed in less learned markets. Kids fresh from the Metallica/Pantera phase fall in love with them. It makes me sick. Especially when they look in the opposite direction of where the good music is coming from(that being europe). BAH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    So what your sayin is bands with loads of fans are
    most likely crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Deadwing


    . Kids fresh from the Metallica/Pantera phase fall in love with them.
    whats wrong with pantera? Sure mtallica suck balls now, but both those bands are what id call old school metal, i.e back when metal was good and singers didnt whine about how crappy it is to be a teenager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Beekay wrote:
    So what your sayin is bands with loads of fans are
    most likely crap.

    My take on it is that the more fans you have, the more likely you are of pandering, but that is not a definite. Take a look at Dream Theater, Rush, even Opeth nowadays, all extremely popular, all excellent and certinaly not merely an exception to the rule, so to speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    No, beekay, but I think Karl got it right (to an extent). Bands who get lots of fans think "Hmm, better not screw this up!!" And begin writing the same stuff, yet constantly watering it down to it's most basic form. In Flames are overwhelmingly guilty of this, Soilwork are too. How a band goes from Chainheart Machine and A Predator's Portrait to Figure Number Five in 2 albums is beyond me. N*Flamez' transformation was much more gradual, but equally appalling. And I didn't say Metallica or Pantera suck. I like both bands, even though Pantera ripped Exhorder off to no end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    What about Lamb of God then,they just signed a deal with epic and they haven't watered down their new album at all.
    And i think Chimaira got heavier on their second album with no hint of whiny
    emo vocals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    I went to the gig where the original three bands played the one night, and one other i can't remember, liked 2 songs over the whole night and not very much at that.

    I'd rather listen to any pop metal band over them i just can't get into all that screaming, however if ya like it good for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Beekay wrote:
    I think metal hammer were the first to call it that.

    They keep on sayin Hatebreed are part of
    it but they were around ages before.



    No, the concert promoters for the NWOAHM tour (KSE, Chimaira etc.) were the first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    That tour happened about 2 months after metal hammer had a big piece
    about the N.W.O.A.H.M. in one of their magazines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭0utshined


    Apologies for the cross post but this might be of interest to some of ye:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=207152


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭toffo


    Love Shadows Fall, can't stand the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    here it comes...........

    who said becuase slipknot have so many fans it makes them good? if your not a fan of their self-titled or iowa try MFKR or vol3, theyre albums that your prob more likely to relate to.
    as for chimaira theyre class, you can hear the kerry king and scott ian influences in the riffing, the riffin is old school and for solos the (hate to say it) late dimebag influence is there in them. btw impossiblity of reason is better then pass out of existance
    as for the rest dont like them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    derrylahan wrote:
    who said becuase slipknot have so many fans it makes them good? if your not a fan of their self-titled or iowa try MFKR or vol3, theyre albums that your prob more likely to relate to.
    Havent listened to their MFKR album much, but I have to say I like vol3, some really good songs on it, some of the slower stuff is great, I particularly like Vermillion part2, great song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    Whats slipknots mfkr album?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Beekay wrote:
    Whats slipknots mfkr album?

    Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    Thanks,
    i've never heard of that album. is it from before they were signed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Drevin Fairy


    God Forbid - Cool :D
    Killswitch Engage - strange guitarist
    Shadows Fall - Nice dreds
    Chimaria - see above

    NWOAHM- Cool enough, lets see more bands now please


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