Bullet Holes from 1916 or War of Independence

Dummy

We all know of the bullet holes in Daniel O'Connell's Statue from the 1916 Rising, but does anyone know of any other parts of Dublin where there are similar markings from this era?

The College of Surgeons had the front walls mended from the shots fired from the Shelbourne Hotel, and the mends are clearly visible from the street.

Hagar

You could try the Shelbourne Hotel, I'm sure the boys shot back.

On a more serious note, the GPO, Four Courts, Jacobs, Dublin Castle, Clanwilliam House, parts of Moore Street and Talbot Street the list goes on. Basically any of the strongholds in the uprising were shot to bits. Bring a pair of binoculars and have a look at any vantage point on those buildings that a sniper would have been at and your sure to find something of interest.

Dummy

Hagar - very amusing. I am still laughing.

Never did cross my mind to look at the Shelbourne.


Well done.

Swarfboy

Another spot is the Tap Bar on North King Street...
Can't remember if it was Pearse in there or wha but I do remember me Da saying that it was one of the most shot at...

spanner

the railway bridge on the old wexford road in gorey co. wexford has bullets from the assisins Micheal Collins sent to kill Sir Henry Wilson the guy who named all the ring leaders of the rising and spat in Collins's face as the lined up after surrendering.

Dummy

Thank you. I will have a look at both of these places. I am going down towards Wexford in few weeks and will leave plenty of time to stop at that bridge. I'll go into North King Street some Sundat afternoon.

Does anyone know if there is a register or book that documents the sites of ambushes throughout Ireland? I know that Tim Pat Coogan, Meda Ryan, Dan Breen, Tom Barry and many others mention ambushes in their books, but there must a complete list somewhere.

magpie

There's a 1916 tour of Dublin that leaves (I think) from the International Bar on Wicklow St. I'm sure they could point out a few holes to you.

woosaysdan

along the GPO

woosaysdan

a better pic

timamansio

Hagar wrote:

You could try the Shelbourne Hotel, I'm sure the boys shot back.

On a more serious note, the GPO, Four Courts, Jacobs, Dublin Castle, Clanwilliam House, parts of Moore Street and Talbot Street the list goes on. Basically any of the strongholds in the uprising were shot to bits. Bring a pair of binoculars and have a look at any vantage point on those buildings that a sniper would have been at and your sure to find something of interest.

Whatever about the other buildings mentioned, I'm almost sure that the bullet holes found on the facade of the Four Courts were inflicted during the Civil War and not during either the Rising or the War of Independence.

QC

I've been told that the bullet holes on the O'Connell statue are not from 1916, but from the 1913 lockout.

magpie

Oh yeah, you can see ones on the college of surgeons pretty clearly

cdebru

Swarfboy wrote:

Another spot is the Tap Bar on North King Street...
Can't remember if it was Pearse in there or wha but I do remember me Da saying that it was one of the most shot at...

afaik

kevin barry was captured just across the road from the tap in north king street
following the attack on the convoy at a bakery just across the road

it is possible that bullet hole there are from that event

marco murphy

cdebru wrote:

afaik

kevin barry was captured just across the road from the tap in north king street
following the attack on the convoy at a bakery just across the road

it is possible that bullet hole there are from that event

No.Wasnt that many shots fired then.

cdebru

Poblachtach wrote:

No.Wasnt that many shots fired then.

I bow to your superior knowledge of exactly how many bullets were fired when kevin barry was captured
and how many bullet marks are in the tap

Dummy

QC - I never knew that shots were fired in the Lockout.

I know that Pearse placed snipers on the roof of the GPO who spent most of their time firing at snipers on the roof of one of the buildings along the quays (along the quay where The Harp is / was).

There must be a record somewhere that details the location of all ambush sites. Does anyone know of such a record?

Heard some chap on the Joe Duffy show talking about a 1916 walking tour he gives. Will do this tour in the New Year.

marco murphy

Dummy,where do ye go for the tour?

Dummy

Happy New Year Poblachtach.

The guy on the Joe Duffy show gave the website address http://www.1916rising.com/

BTW, I don't know if you heard that show but they were trying to identify the person standing next to Pearse during the surrender. Beside Pearse's right foot is another foot (and no !! Not his left). Some people were saying that it was a Nurse O'Farrell, and a Mr. Findlater was saying that it was his grandfather.

Have a look at the photo at http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/ and tell me who or what you thing it is. I don't agree with any of the suggestions that were made during the show and I emailed the show but never heard anything back but I guess they get thousands of emails every week.

I'd be interested to hear what you think - especially if you are a techie.

Happy New Year to you.

marco murphy

Happy new year,bit late or what.But i cant see the photo.But i think i know what it is.Would it be a stupid sugestion to say it was a british soldier?

newgrange

I thought this was accepted to be Nurse O'Farrell.

Dummy

I went back up onto the liveline website and am convinced that the person is neither a british soldier and not Nurse O'Farrell. Have another try at the website and see for yourselves. I think I mentioned that I emailed the show with the image enhanced but have never heard back.

Dummy

Have attached the enhanced image - what do you think?

newgrange

To be honest it looks like a small person's feet and the bottom of a woman's dress.
I work with a woman who is a great-grand-niece (or something) of Nurse O'Farrell - she was telling me someone contacted them recently about writing a book about her. Whoever that is might know for sure.

Dummy

Newgrange - Yes you can see what I believe to be a ladies shoe (slightly raised heel) and you can also see what appears to be a dress.

Have a look at the image attached to my last post and see if you can see anything else. Anyone I have shown it to has spotted something immediately.

Stripey Cat

I can't see anything on the picture.

I am very interested in bullet holes on Dublin buildings though. Anymore definite sightings apart from the GPO and College of Surgeons?

jonniebgood1

Please do not revamp old threads. Closed.