Hiv

LegacyUser

I was with somebody a few times who I found out was with somebody else before me who has HIV. We had unprotected oral sex and kissed alot but not anything else. He says he had protected sex with the person who had HIV and didn't know that person has HIV. How likely is it to get HIV through kissing and oral sex. I didn't swallow btw. How long do you wait before getting a HIV test.

simu

worried wrote:

I was with somebody a few times who I found out was with somebody else before me who has HIV. We had unprotected oral sex and kissed alot but not anything else. He says he had protected sex with the person who had HIV and didn't know that person has HIV. How likely is it to get HIV through kissing and oral sex. I didn't swallow btw. How long do you wait before getting a HIV test.

3 months at least for the antibodies to show up.

Source: http://www.shb.ie/content1348011390_1.cfm

seamus

Kissing, next to impossible,
Oral Sex, not next to impossible.
Don't worry for the next three months, then head off and get yourself tested.

Had this guy not bothered his ass getting himself tested as soon as he heard that his previous partner was positive? Fs....

uberwolf

seamus wrote:

Don't worry for the next three months

that is to say be extraordinarily careful with any sexual partners you have between here and then. Good luck.

smoke.me.a.kipper

seamus wrote:

Had this guy not bothered his ass getting himself tested as soon as he heard that his previous partner was positive? Fs....

i really hope he didnt know. if he did, he should be taken out and shot, tho that would probably be too good for him.

as others said, wait the 3 months, be careful with sexual partners till then, and get tested. i hope you get the all clear.

Pet

worried wrote:

I was with somebody a few times who I found out was with somebody else before me who has HIV. We had unprotected oral sex and kissed alot but not anything else. He says he had protected sex with the person who had HIV and didn't know that person has HIV. How likely is it to get HIV through kissing and oral sex. I didn't swallow btw. How long do you wait before getting a HIV test.

Afaik, swallowing has little effect, because the acid in your stomach would kill it anyways. It's the fact that it was in your mouth that could be a worry. But there are proteins in saliva which actually deactivate the virus.
Kissing is a pretty low-risk activity, unless you have gum irritation or gingivitis.

Overall, i'd say your risk is fairly low. But you have to wait FIVE months for the test to be really accurate, so between then and now, make sure to have very safe sex. You can get a free test at the gay men's health project..google it for more info.

WhiteWashMan

unless you have any cuts in your mouth, or gum sores etc.
best talk to GP sooner rather than later. they can give you far better advice than us.

qwertyphobia

the window period is three months not five as someone else stated above.

HIV transmission does happen through oral sex but it's nowhere near the main route of transmission. The VAST majourity of adults who test positive for HIV have had viginal/anal unprotected sex or share injecting equipment.

If oral sex was a regular route of transmission we would have a very different profile of people testing positive then we have.

The UK department of Health investigated this and in all they came up with I think was 9 cases where they belived there was a likely tranmission of HIV through oral sex that was going back a number of years. When you take into account that over 4000 people are newly diaiganosed with HIV every year it shows how small a risk it is. Even if the estimate is under reported it's still a small number.

Factors that increase the risk of oral sex tranmision are, taking cum in the mouth, having a throat infection, cuts in the mouth and the Viral load of the person.

uberwolf

qwertyphobia wrote:

shows how small a risk it is. Even if the estimate is under reported it's still a small number.

I don't think that's a question of risk though that you are addressing. All that says if you A, got aids, there is only a 9 in 4000 chance you got it through oral sex - which isn't very instructive.

Risk is more like you are less likely to get aids from an infected person if you have unprotected oral sex with them than unprotected anal/normal sex.

Which is an aside really/maybe. Oral sex was one of the less risky prcatices you could have engaged in because there is a lower chance of transmission as per :

qwertyphobia wrote:

Factors that increase the risk of oral sex tranmision are, taking cum in the mouth, having a throat infection, cuts in the mouth and the Viral load of the person.

LegacyUser

Is it very likely that a man can get HIV from receiving oral by an infected person?

John R

While the standard tests require a 3 months gap from infection to show results there are other tests that will give accurate results in less than a month.
If you really need to know without waiting you can get your GP to order them, they aren't cheap though.

http://www.aidsmeds.com/lessons/HIVtests7.htm

neuro-praxis

worried:

Maybe you should abstain til you have a test? You don't want to put other people at risk.

Like seamus said, try hard not to worry. Book your appointment for the test and just hang tight til then.

I really, really hope you're ok.

qwertyphobia

"Is it very likely that a man can get HIV from receiving oral by an infected person?"

There has never been a known case of HIV transmission from a person with HIV sucking a person off.



Uberwolfe it's not just simply semantics but you don't catch AIDS it's HIV that is transmitted. I also don't like your dividing sex between anal/normal I persume you mean anal/vaginal sex

seamus

qwertyphobia wrote:

Uberwolfe it's not just simply semantics but you don't catch AIDS it's HIV that is transmitted.

Of course, but for the purposes of this discussion, there's no point in making teh distinction.

I also don't like your dividing sex between anal/normal I persume you mean anal/vaginal sex

Why not? Anal, isn't normal. Meaning normal as in the way people normally have sex, which last time I checked, was vaginal. That's irrelevant semantics.

uberwolf

qwertyphobia wrote:

I also don't like your dividing sex between anal/normal

tough TBH.

Uberwolfe it's not just simply semantics but you don't catch AIDS it's HIV that is transmitted

intents and purposes. I'm aware there are differences and you're right to highlight it.

original poster. I guess there's nothing you can do but wait for the requisite time for your test. Till then try not to worry, and abstain if you can.


edit: I began this response before seamus posted. He has explained in both instances what I meant.

Ph3n0m

worried wrote:

I was with somebody a few times who I found out was with somebody else before me who has HIV. We had unprotected oral sex and kissed alot but not anything else. He says he had protected sex with the person who had HIV and didn't know that person has HIV. How likely is it to get HIV through kissing and oral sex. I didn't swallow btw. How long do you wait before getting a HIV test.

Worried, all I could offer in the way of advice is to do the following:

Get tested as soon as possible
Abstain from sex (be it vaginal/oral/anal) until you have been tested and cleared - better safe the sorry
Tell that other guy to get tested asap

Victor

Man wrote:

Is it very likely that a man can get HIV from receiving oral by an infected person?

I imagine it's a lower risk, but I can't quantify that risk. But I imagine you could get some other infections.

qwertyphobia wrote:

I also don't like your dividing sex between anal/normal I persume you mean anal/vaginal sex

I think it was merely a turn of phrase. And "sex", qualifications ("oral sex", "anal sex", etc.) aside, only includes vaginal sex.

And can everyone note that anal sex is the highest risk sexual activity.

FranknFurter

seamus wrote:

Of course, but for the purposes of this discussion, there's no point in making teh distinction.

Actually, imo, there is....

One of the main reasons people panic so much when diagnosed is because all the media ever talks about is the effects that may appear when / if HIV develops into AIDS

If people were as informed about actual HIV there may not be as much panic.

Have you ever seen the suicide stats for men who have recently been diagnosed?

HIV does NOT mean you have AIDS.

AIDS stems from when a HIV+ person develops for example, pneumonia, if their immune system cannot cope with it, then that can often (depending on severity) be an ADI (AIDS defining illness).

They are two seperate entitys, and HIV is a virus that can often be very well managed for decades if diagnosed early.