Teeing off in front of markers, matchplay

moycullen14

Had an interesting one recently…..

Player A tees off in front of the tee marker and opponent, player B, incorrectly says that he claims the hole.

Player A's tee shot wasn't great and he knew the rules so he says 'do you want to enforce that?' Player B agrees so A goes to tee off again…. Much arguing ensues. A knew the rule (you can be made tee off again in matchplay, no penalty) and, crucially, he knew that B didn't know the rule. A tees off again and off they go.

What's the ruling? B called A on the tee off but didn't ask him to tee-off again. Should they have carried on with A's original tee shot or was A entitled to tee-off again?

A won the match in a canter so it didn't really matter.

awec

I'd say it probably shouldn't have been re-teed, but I also guess it's ultimately B's fault for not knowing the rules.

But, if this was a matchplay between two members of the same club, I would probably say B is a bit of a dick for letting A tee off if he knew he was ahead of the markers and then calling it afterward, and A is a bit of a dick for exploiting that B didn't know the rules.

JIdontknow

R&A: Playing a Hole

6.1b

Ball Must Be Played from Inside Teeing Area

A player must start each hole by playing a ball from anywhere inside the teeing area under Rule 6.2b.If a player who is starting a hole plays a ball from outside the teeing area (including from a wrong set of tee-markers for a different teeing location on the same hole or a different hole):(1) Match Play. There is no penalty, but the opponent may cancel the stroke:

• This must be done promptly and before either player makes another stroke. When the opponent cancels the stroke, they cannot withdraw the cancellation.
• If the opponent cancels the stroke, the player must play a ball from inside the teeing area and it is still their turn to play.
• If the opponent does not cancel the stroke, the stroke counts and the ball is in play and must be played as it lies.

(2) Stroke Play. The player gets the general penalty (two penalty strokes) and must correct the mistake by playing a ball from inside the teeing area:

• The ball played from outside the teeing area is not in play.
• That stroke and any more strokes before the mistake is corrected (including strokes made and any penalty strokes solely from playing that ball) do not count.
• If the player does not correct the mistake before making a stroke to begin another hole or, for the final hole of the round, before returning their scorecard, the player is disqualified.

Miley Byrne

I think A was well within his rights to capitilise on B's attempt to claim the hole when B could have probably given A the opportunity to correct where he had the ball teed up before his original tee shot.

Fair play to Player A

Golfgraffix

yep, well done A on utilising his knowledge of the rules.

callaway92

B is a moron

fullstop

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Anyone who announces “I’m claiming the hole” generally is. Had a situation years ago in an interclub foursomes match (we were the away team) where there was a temporary green cut in a fairway covered in sand. My playing partner flicked a lump of sand away with his putter and holed a 6 footer to win the hole. On the way to the next tee, one of our opponents (who was also a former member in our club) announced he was claiming the hole for my partner “testing his line”. It wouldn’t have made a difference if he hired a surveying team putting on a green like that, nevermind flicking a lump of sand with his putter (and I know he gave them a chance to object by not brushing it with his hand) but the opponent was insistent. Massive row ensued, they claimed the hole so instead of being 1 down were 1 up. There wasn’t another word spoken for the rest of the round and it left a really sour taste between the two teams overall

Golfgraffix

I’ve seen that scenario a few times in interclub.

An interesting one a good number of years ago. Almost the exact same situation, where a playing partner may have touched the line of his partner’s putt (allowed in today’s rules). He was sure he didn’t but he could see the opposition discussing it.

After they holed the putt (to win the hole) they “quickly” :) walked to the tee box and hit off. End of the issue, other guys had missed their chance to claim the hole.

spacecoyote

Have also seen a case of a guy cleaning his ball on the green surface, as in, rubbing some dirt off his ball, being told he was testing the surface.

Some people just take things way too seriously

MojoMaker

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