Dash cam for every car?

littlefeet

I heard of two incidents recently, one involved a middle-aged woman in a huge SUV who tried to intimidate her way into a parking space, and one when a van reversed back up a slipway when they realised they were heading on the motorway. The Garda are unlikely to deal with either issue, so dashcam footage could act as both evidence and a deterrent. The middle-aged woman would not want the public embarrassment of her employer seeing her behavior, and the van driver it would be evidence.

More seriously, it would be a great deterrent to a lot of drivers to know every car has a dashcam.

artanevilla

Implementation would be extremely difficult.

1. Retrofit costs
2. Standardization (removable storage, aspect ratios, definition, FOV etc)
3. GDPR
4. Who owns the data

Amongst many other considerations.

littlefeet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123775379#Comment_123775379

I don't have the answers, but Ireland is changing the restraints on behaviours that used to be there are disappearing, so external restraints such as dashcam might work?

Markcheese

They're getting cheaper and more user friendly, I saw one online - recently that had a little solar panel , and basically linked wirelessly to a front screen , so it was both reversing camera and rear facing dash cam ,

I'd imagine there are ways around compatibility, (although if you reformat it are you changing/ altering the image - but as long as the original was stored that may not be an issue ,

Would GDPR be an issue - ?

As in the - both the vehicle filming and being filmed would be in public places- and the owner of the camera would be aware theres a camera ..

The big issue would be the actual driver of the cars being filmed - do they have an expectation of privacy while driving. ? Does that only apply to drone driving for work ?

But even then , it'll likely be the reg plate that'll be the identifier of the offending vehicle not the image of the driver ..

Of course , if it happened it'd be our courts who'd decide any admissibility..

T-Maxx

The sooner this is made standard in all new cars the better.

RobbieTheRobber

All those cheap Chinese Dashcams uploading all that delicious face recognition data to Chinese servers.

littlefeet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123775615#Comment_123775615

Its like when one of my children said, when I was buying a new phone, "Don't get a Chinese spy phone." I know I should care about the Chinese spying on us, but to be honest, I couldn't care less.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123775663#Comment_123775663

Oh its way too late to care now.

Just making a humorous observation.

Gumbo

one of the good things of the Tesla is that you have constantly 6 cameras recording and acting as a dash cam. Can save the footage or review the footage or download the footage all through the app.

I’d be a fan of every car getting this as standard but the data should remain with the owner.

Uncle Pierre

Wouldn't surprise me if it's mandated in all new vehicles at some stage in the future (similar to how DRLs were mandated some ten years ago), and that issues such as GDPR, standardisation, etc., are address as part of that. Of course, it would still take a number of years after that before the majority of vehicles on the road actually had a camera.

Don't think it's feasible to mandate that all vehicles already on the road have to be retrofitted with cameras, despite how it could surely only help with improving driver behaviour overall.

Alun

They're illegal in some EU countries due to privacy laws so they're unlikely to be made compulsory any time soon. In Austria you can be fined up to €25,000 for having one, for example.

littlefeet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776753#Comment_123776753

A Transport for Ireland bus crashed into my car. The minute the driver got out, he said he said, It was his fault. He said The bus has cameras all around, so it will show what happened, No vehicles in Austria have cameras on them? Are ring doorbells illegal in Austria as well?

Alun

Austria not Australia.

They're illegal in Portugal, Luxembourg and Switzerland too.

elperello

Retro fitting to second hand cars completely impractical.

Unless offered as an option by the manufacturer on new cars very expensive.

Then there's the legalities regarding the chain of evidence and probable lack of third party witnesses in most instances

RickBlaine

There are scammers who cut in front of you and then deliberately reverse into you to fake a rear end accident. Without a dashcam, it'll be your word against theirs. In Ireland and UK at least, no law against dash cams thankfully.

littlefeet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776814#Comment_123776814

We're getting a new car, the main dealer is charging 300 for the dashcam, which I dont think is prohibitively expensive.

 

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776894#Comment_123776894

What make and model is the camera ?

littlefeet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776932#Comment_123776932

I don't know, didn't think to ask.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776954#Comment_123776954

Ok thanks for the reply.

You probably should check what they are selling you.

littlefeet

I might not use the dash cam we will see, but no harm in having the choice, An amount of people seem to have no filter anymore look at the treaths to Simon Harris's Children, and it is connected to driving a sense of people feeling they can do what like.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123776954#Comment_123776954

And check whether it is front and rear or just front only.

DvB

Have a new car on order, and already have a new dashcam front & rear to fit when it arrives, given the nonsense I see on the road all too regularly there's no way I'd be driving without one anymore, the level of sheer incompetence and risk taking on the roads is off the charts.