308 recommendation

Rob.blair84

I plan on pulling the tigger (pun intended) at the end of the month on either the Sauer 100 or the Mauser m18 ….had a feel of both and got to say loved the sauer but the wife asked a solid question , what made the 800 difference worth it 😂 so what you all think go with the sauer 100 worth the extra …

john_aero

I am waiting on my licesne but i realy liked the Sauer when i held it. Was all gone for a Tikka but when seen it in the flesh just took a liking to it, felt nice in the hand, well build and like that its not the noraml rifle everyone buys

Rob.blair84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123594096#Comment_123594096

your maken me want to go with the sauer the more i think about it..

Richard308

Mauser m25 maybe a better option than both?

Rob.blair84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123600470#Comment_123600470

the one with the straight bolt ? Could be an contender also alright

dalalada

Forget them and go with a multi calibre platform.

Rob.blair84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123608519#Comment_123608519

what way dose the license work on that ?

TheEngineer1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123608519#Comment_123608519

Would have to disagree here. In jurisdictions where paperwork allows for multiple guns and barrels etc on one license then that makes sense.

In Ireland where you need brand new license for a new barrel for your switch barrel license, I would say you're better off just buying two different guns. That way you have a spare if one needs servicing/ repairs without having to do a substitution, and if you fancy something different down the line then it is much easier to sell one and do a one for one substation for a different rifle rather than trying to source a new calibre barrel and then sell whatever barrel one you don't want.

dalalada

It’s a personal choice isn’t it. The old school thought would be a rifle for every calibre and those multi calibre rifles are inaccurate and troublesome. Which might have been true a decade ago but I’ve 2024 made multi calibre platform and it’s as good as any rifle I’ve met on the range including F class. I’d argue multi calibre is way better in Ireland too given our cool and perfect licence system. I don’t get 2 rifles because:

• Two rifles = more space, more scopes, bigger gun safe needed 
• in reality and practice it’s not liked by the powers that be as you have 2 full rifles instead of 1 meaning it’s more of a security issue. 
• More maintenance, more service on 2 rifles (don’t get your point Engineer on how you have a spare one if one’s in for service?? Surly it’s 2 rifles of a different calibre so if it’s a 308 that’s in for service how can a 223 do a 308 job anyway? ) 
• The big issue with 2 rifles is more optics needed, meaning it works out more expensive if you’re buying a good optic for 1/2/€3000 each. Another licence for NV/thermal optic needed too if it’s used on both rifles but I’m not sure on that one as my thermal is licenced on my multi calibre so never had to worry about duel licence. I’ve my scope set up so there’s no re zero needed between the 338 and 308 as I lock the dial to “0”, so I can come back to it later in seconds.
• Need to practice on both rifles for consistency 
• Same stock, scope, and trigger feel on a multi calibre platform = consistent shooting on the range and in the field
• Compact in transport as with the barrel removed its a foot long and fits in a small case. 
• And it just looks cool as F#@k 

Original poster Rob Blair: I imported my bull pup multi calibre rifle in from Germany. Licence works same as any rifle except you can licence further calibres in future as you wish as a barrel. I found it very straight forward to licence the rifle and an extra barrel in a new calibre a few moths later even though my platform is in the restricted category.

So have a look at a blazer R8 for example (which can be got with a .22 conversion kit for cheap training ) or if you prefer Sauer then a sauer 404. Worth looking at all your options for the crack anyway. 

Here are some in Ireland and I’ve no affiliation with these shops:

https://lakelandshootingcentre.ie/product/blaser-r8-ultimate/

https://irishshootingsports.ie/guns/rifles/new-rifles/new-rifle-centrefire/sauer-404-synchro-xtc-308/

TheEngineer1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123611052#Comment_123611052

If it works for you then by all means go for it. But I just think it's more hassle than it's worth.

• Fair enough a full rifle takes up more space than a gun I'll give you that
• In my experience it's been the opposite. The powers that be were all over the place registering a spare barrel on PULSE as a firearm, then wondering how the spare barrel issue worked with different serial numbers when fitted to the gun, then different ammunition allowances for rifle and spare barrel etc. Granted this is only one jurisdiction, they may be better in others.
• Yes in the case of a .223 and .308, but something like a .243 and a .308 can be used fairly interchangeably for a lot of hunting situations. But in a switch barrel platform, you'd need a different bolt head, different magazine, and different barrel to switch between a .308 and a .223. And because a bolt head is a pressure bearing part, you'd need yet another license for that if the serial number is different to your original rifle and spare barrel.
• That's fair, I mainly use fixed power hunting scopes with simple turrets. So if I changed barrel I would have to re zero. Using a switch barrel requires a scope with turrets like you've described above which is a significant investment, up to and over €3k like you said above.
• I don't get the practice issue? If you're using comfortable rifles that fit you then you should have no issue changing between them. With a switch barrel you have to practice learning the ballistics of your different calibres the same as if you're using two different rifles of different calibres.
• I'll concede your point on travel space too

Rob.blair84

cheers guys you’s gave me a fair few bits to think about