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CONTRACT OF EMPLOYMENT

  • 03-04-2025 07:36AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭


    Hi, my husband is working for a multinational company for 10 years and has an employment contract which states that he is employed on a 3 shift contract. The company have been trying to get their employees to change to the continental shift (2 x 12 hour days, 2 x12 hour nights and 3 days off). There are 14 of them that have the same contract and don't want to do this new shift and are refusing to and the union is negotiating on their behalf. Should he look for a lump sum from the company as they are breaking the contract and if so how much?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,948 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Is his employer subject to the 20% tariffs: 85,000 jobs on the line here so I think the employer now has a stronger hand.

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭eastie17


    what a daft response



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I'm in a similar situation and this isn't helpful to anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,741 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Is he paid hourly or salaried?

    And how many hours per week is he working?

    Realistically, a payout is most likely if he refused the shift change and got made redundant. In the current world economic situation, that's not a good option, whether his sector is directly impacted by the tarrifs or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,948 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    When you say similar, you are trying to renegotiate your TOE independently from the union where the employer want a change to the current TOE?

    Should he look for a lump sum from the company as they are breaking the contract and if so how much?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,948 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭csirl


    Normally financial compensation would only be discussed if the change in pattern led to a reduction in take home pay e.g. if there were different rates for different times/days or loss of regular overtime.

    Discussions around shift changes usually concern practicalities e.g. break times, is hot food available on site (an issue if shifts are longer), is there a creche if people"s childcare arrangements have to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭XT1200


    I think the response is self explanatory and there is no need to elaborate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Surely the whole idea of a contract is that both sides agree to it when signing up so if one side now wants to change it then absolutely they should have to compensate the other side. I'm sure if the 14 employees decided they wanted to arrange a working week to suit themselves they would be would be told no by the company. I can see plenty of companies trying to use the tariff issue to their advantage and screwing the worker as usual

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,054 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    They don't necessarily have to compensate the other side; but they do have to seek their agreement, which may be more readily forthcoming if some quid pro quo is offered.

    However the terms of the contract likely give the employer the right to change hours and shift patters, subject to some constraint of reasonability and not reducing earnings. The debate will be whether this particular change is "reasonable", or whatever else it needs to be to come within the contract terms.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,651 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Just as an aside that's a terrible roster, there should really be 4 days off as opposed to 3 at the very least. That's a 48 hour week, taking the piss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Generally employment contracts are drafted by or on behalf of employers and typically have clauses to enable the employer to vary terms like working hours to adjust to business needs. So step one is to to look in detail at the terms of employment.



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