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Owen Roe O Neill

  • 31-03-2025 04:31PM
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    Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭


    Hi Guys

    I'm looking for some books on the life of Owen Roe O Neill. I'm interested in the Siege of Arras and his return to Ireland. Can anyone recommend any?

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭iniscealtra


    a quick search yielded this

    • Jerrold I. Casway, Owen Roe O'Neill and the Struggle for Catholic Ireland, 1984, University of Pennsylvania Press
    • Padraig Lenihan, Confederate Catholics at War
    • Deana Rankin, Between Spenser and Swift - English Writing in seventeenth century Ireland
    • James Scott Wheeler, Cromwell in Ireland
    • Tadhg Ó Hanrachain, The Catholic Reformation in Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭the O Reilly connection




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Aurelian


    I've read Confederate Catholics At War. Probably not the place to start.

    I'd suggest starting with his entry on dib.ie and see what's referenced their for further reading. There are also scholarly articles out there about his career on the continent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭yagan


    I read the James Scott Wheeler book years ago and if I recall rightly it didn't get too much into the political personal backstories but was excellent in describing how warfare progressed in Ireland during that era. I think he mentioned how O'Neill had brought his experience from fighting in the low countries but that he found it hard to get Irish fighters to adopt the latest tactics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,989 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭yagan


    Would that not be the hugh oneill era you're thinking of?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Aurelian


    I don't recall him being mentioned in that book though I could be wrong. He would have been a very marginal figure at that time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭the O Reilly connection


    Is there any mention of O Neill at Arras and the pople who were there with him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭yagan


    It's been years since I read it but at best my recollection is that O'Neill was noted as experienced in the type of siege warfare like Arras before arriving with Rinucini in Ireland. He had knowledge of the type of field canon now common that would render Irish medieval walled towns as very vulnerable unless an earthen embankment was built behind them, like the one that's still visible in the grounds of Canices Cathedral in Kilkenny.

    As I stated previously he did try to train and drill Irish recruits into ways he was used to fighting for Spain, but until Cromwell arrived Irish fighters had never seen that type of field army.

    Edit to add, i read a lot of books once about that era and the one I found best for detailing the dynamics of conflict in that era was Cromwell: An Honourable Enemy by Tom Reilly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I'd recommend The Battle of Benburb 1646 by Clive Hollick. It's not heavy on details of O'Neill's career with Spain but it is a great account of his greatest victory in Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Jim O'Neill's The nine years war, has some great info and a very good bibliography to jump off into more specific Roe O'Neill research from.

    Outside of pure academic publishing, you may well find something that gives an insight into his Spanish service via Osprey Publishing as they really do carry a huge amount of niche military history publications and monograms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Aurelian


    For the benefit of the OP is Owen Roe mentioned in this book at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,989 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭the O Reilly connection


    That's great. Thanks for your help!



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