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A midsummer night's review of the National Development Plan (2025)

  • 19-02-2025 11:09AM
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    During the news on the new Government formation, it has been repeatedly stated that the review of the National Development Plan will be complete by July of this year. This will see some changes for a few reasons:

    1. The inclusion of projects that wish to be prioritised by the regional independent members of Government
    2. Removing the requirement to rearrange the NDP around the Green Party deputies' wishes
    3. Reflecting on the 11 completed projects of the 42 included in the last NDP
    4. Potentially requiring further expectation management around delivery timelines due to planning delays and construction inflation

    The 2018 NDP included 23 projects to be advanced to construction during 2018-2027, and 22 projects to be advanced through planning and design, with leftover funds from the 23 former projects to be used to advance some of the latter 22. I refer to the 2018 NDP as the 2021 NDP is effectively the 2018 NDP with watered down language re: the commitments made to progress the schemes as somebody started throwing their toys out of the pram when the roads discussion was taking place.

    Of the 23 projects included in the construction programme of the 2018-27 NDP

    • 11 are complete (N4 Collooney-C'baldwin, N5 Westport-Turlough, M7 widening, Dunkettle, N11 Kilmacanogue, M11 Enniscorthy, N22 Macroom, N25 New Ross, N56 M'charles-Inver, N59 Moycullen, N69 Listowel)
    • 1 is under construction (N5 Ballaghaderreen-Scramoge)
    • 2 are part under construction, pending main works contract (M21 Adare-Foynes, M28)
    • 2 are subject to judicidal review having received planning permission (M6 Galway Ring, N52 Ardee)
    • 1 is pending approval by An Bord Pleanála (N2 Slane)
    • 2 are in the planning and design phase (M20, N72 Mallow)

    4 are Low Volume National Secondary schemes:

    • N56 Dungloe-Glenties (23km complete, 3km under construction)
    • N59 Westport-Mulranny (10km complete, 5km to commence 2025, 9km in queue)
    • N59 Oughterard-Maam Cross (5km complete, 10km pending NPWS approval)
    • N86 Camp-Dingle (8km complete, 6km awaiting commencement, 20km pending)

    Overall, 11 complete, 7 at least partially under construction, and 5 in the courts/ABP/planning system is a good result. The main disappointment has been planning delays and the lack of progress on the LVNS schemes since 2020.

    Of the 22 projects to be advanced through planning and design in the 2018-27 NDP, 3 have received Cabinet approval to submit to ABP, but remain pending submission. One of the 23 of these appears to now be completely under the aegis of Dublin Port, and the remaining 18 are either close to planning submission, going through the planning phases, have been mangled by the Minister or have been outright defunded and are frozen/de facto scrapped. Interestingly, one of the projects that the previous Minister sought to put a roadblock on has been advanced since the start of the year with the 51.1km Type 2 Mullingar-Longford route published.

    In summary:

    • Of the 42 projects (minus the Dublin Port access route), 28 have not received full planning permission (of the other 14, 11 complete, 1 under construction, 2 partially under construction).
    • Of the 23 committed to construction between 2018-27, 11 are complete, 1 is under construction, 2 have planning and are underway on a phased basis, 2 are subject to judicial review, 1 is with ABP, 2 are at design and 4 are being delivered on a phased basis (low volume national secondaries)
    • Of the 21 committed to work through the planning phase between 2018-27 with funding being allocated to advance some beyond this on a priority basis subjected to available funding, 3 are Cabinet approved pending ABP submission and 18 are in the design & planning phase.

    A timely reminder that in 2021, TII sought the following to be considered for inclusion in the NDP:

    • All 43 of the projects as outlined above
    • A further 10 projects of regional importance
    • Six radial bus priority projects in the Greater Dublin Area
    • Four programmes of works on national secondary roads.

    Details on these were never made public

    Your thoughts on what could/should/will be included in the review of the NDP are more than welcome.



Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Confirmed by Minister

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/1352a-ministers-chambers-announces-a-review-of-the-national-development-plan/



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    This topic makes the front of today's Sunday Times

    Headline is Huge funds to get roadbuilding on track

    The article is light on detail but it suggests that post NDP review, important roads projects will be "accelerated" and that stalled road projects would fast tracked as the roads budget would be given "certainty and stability". Then quotes from Minister Michael Healy-Rae about how the people want good roads.

    Looking forward to the specifics on this in the NDP review in July



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭riddlinrussell


    "The road schemes that have been progressing through our glacially slow planning system are nearly ready, so now we get to look like serious road builders lads!"

    Boards is in danger of closing very soon, if it's yer thing, go here (use your boards.ie email!)

    👇️ 👇️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Money doesn't appear to be the issue though, it's the red tape, the courts and the planning system.

    Once a road goes to tender and clearing works start and we get diggers on the ground, that is the home stretch really, as 10 years or more will have passed before they get to that stage.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Interesting to see if anything gets prioritised out of this. The N22 Killarney-Farranfore, N17, N55, Galway Ring Road, Claregalway relief road have to be contenders



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Bmomoran


    N26 in Mayo will make list I reckon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭NedNew2


    While waiting for Tuesdays upcoming news, here is a gem from 1980. Some might recognise the locations.

    Massive potholes in Irish roads 1980



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Great to see talk of accelerated planning for key national projects and also how they are examining how other countries around the Anglosphere are delivering such measures

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/22/government-to-prioritise-infrastructure-delivery-as-it-unveils-200bn-national-development-plan/


    As you can infer from my first post on this thread, these measures are badly needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭somenergy


    More its because its green leftwing no dabate nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭riddlinrussell


    Ah yes, the greens and left, who have checks zero politicians in this government and 1 Green TD in the entire Dáil, sure Rod is practically a shadow government to himself!

    Boards is in danger of closing very soon, if it's yer thing, go here (use your boards.ie email!)

    👇️ 👇️



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    No more Green talk please. They have no involvement in this



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    24bn for transport, with 2bn of that allocated to Metrolink

    I’d be very interested to see how much of that is planned for roads given the figure for 2021-2025 for roads capital investment iirc was less than 1bn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    This is needed. No use having money, if the red tape means it takes years to get things done. But I think we are limited to what we can do due to the legal profession and our signing up to the Aarhus Convention. Its just incredibly difficult get things off the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Its not because of Aarhus but due to common law.

    Civil law jurisdictions do not have trouble with Aarhus. Non Aarhus jurisdictions with common law still have trouble with court cases derailing projects.

    US, UK, NZ, AUS all struggle mightily to get housing, infrastructure etc over the line due to so many legal actions. Common law system serves the legal profession more than it does the society it is supposed to deliver justice to.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Confirmed in the briefing documents that the allocation for 2026-2030 will be 24.33bn for transport, of which 2bn is for Metrolink from the Infrastructure & Climate Fund.

    It's unclear yet what breakdown there will be between public transport/roads and other sectors of transport.

    Regardless, unless there is a massive overhaul in the planning system it's hard to see if there will be any shortfall of funding required for delivering the roads programme, simply due to the lack of sufficiently advanced schemes to allocate funding to.

    There is 3 schemes currently under construction that won't be complete before the start of 2026:

    N5 Ballaghadereen-Scramoge

    M21 Adare bypass

    M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy.

    Two schemes with planning:

    Slane bypass

    M21 Adare-Foynes

    Two schemes in the courts:

    M6 Galway Ring Road

    N52 Ardee bypass

    In addition, these could hit the planning process in the next year:

    The three Donegal TEN-T projects (Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass, Letterkenny-Lifford and the DC upgrade/relief road at Letterkenny)

    M20 Cork-Limerick

    N3 Virginia bypass

    N4 Carrick on Shannon bypass

    N21 Newcastlewest bypass

    N21 Abbeyfeale bypass

    N24 Cahir-Limerick Junction

    N72 Mallow relief road

    Even if the Galway and Ardee bypasses make it out of the courts, and all the above schemes hit ABP and commence construction before 2030, it's hard to see how they couldn't all be funded. Especially given the to be finalised M20 phasing/tolling situation.

    Post edited by marno21 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I see your point, but I also heard that for example, in Holland, they struggle to get planning over the line for housing. They are a civil law jurisdiction.
    Australia would not have the same issue in getting planning as we do, yet they are a common law jurisdiction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Limerick74




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Last post before I went to bed so was an error, I meant to refer to the phasing/tolling talks which may affect the overall funding profile of the scheme.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    This is the latest version of how TII has laid out the roads programme pipeline. It's been degreened and the restrictions around which stretches of road are pure enough to proceed have been dropped.

    Projects at construction

    N5 Ballaghaderreen-Scramoge [completion October 2027]
    M21 Adare bypass [completion June 2027]
    M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy [completion April 2028]

    Projects proceeding to construction

    M21 Limerick-Foynes [balance to be complete over 3 phases; possible completion 2031]

    Projects in planning process

    N52 Ardee bypass [judicial review, could start in 2026]
    N2 Slane bypass [potential 2027 start; complete 2031] * project since approved by ABP
    N13/N14/N15 Donegal TEN-T [planning submission Sept 2025; potential 2028 start]
    M6 Galway Ring Road [judicial review, could start in 2028]

    Projects proceeding to planning stage in late 2025/2026

    N3 Virginia bypass
    N4 Carrick on Shannon bypasss
    N21 Abbeyfeale bypass
    N21 Newcastlewest bypass
    N72 Mallow relief road
    N11 bus priority scheme

    Projects proceeding to planning stage in late 2026/2027

    N2 Clontibret-Border
    N4 Mullingar-Longford
    N11 Oilgate-Rosslare
    N20 Cork-Limerick
    N24 Cahir-Limerick Junction
    N4 Maynooth-Leixlip minor improvements

    Planning pipeline 2028-2030

    N2 Ardee-South of Castleblayney
    N2 Rath Roundabout-Kilmoon Cross
    N3 Clonee-M50
    N11 J4-J14
    N17 Knock-Collooney
    N22 Farranfore-Killarney

    N24 Waterford-Cahir
    N25 Glenmore-Waterford
    N25 Carrigtwohill-Midleton
    N25 Midleton-Youghal
    N52 Tullamore-Kilbeggan
    N59 Maam Cross-Clifden

    Projects in bold in the 2028-2030 list were funded for 2025 and have made meaningful progress in this calendar year. The rest of them have been moribund since c. 2022/23 with the exception of the N59 project which has to start from scratch. The last update on the N59 was that it was being held until the Oughterard-Maam Cross project was complete, which itself has been tangled in environmental shenanigans with several years now.

    TII wanted to add more projects to this list in 2021 so it can be assumed they will want to do the same now with the list somewhat shorter, and development timelines getting longer. Since the 2021 NDP, the N5 in Mayo, N22 in Cork, Dunkettle have all opened to traffic, along with the bypasses of Moycullen and Listowel.

    Which additional projects will make the new NDP list come October?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭scrabtom


    Two stretches of road that I have been on recently that seem like they need an upgrade but aren't on the current list are the N17 directly North of Tuam and the N24 North of Limerick Junction. Do you think there's any chance either of these two will be included?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    Safety, not capacity, seems to be the biggest factor in prioritising schemes, and overall these two are not more urgent than other projects in the network.

    N17 Tuam–Knock really only needs attention around the two villages. The rest is a good road. Some more junction fixes could help a lot with safety.

    N24 is not quite as good, but most of it is still acceptable. The only bit that comes to mind as a problem is the few km of narrow single carriageway west of Ballyvoeen, but even that isn’t particularly busy. I guess the longer term plan would be a new 2+2 here, as mixture of offline and online build.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I thought plans were advanced to take out bends on the N17 between Tuam and Ballindine? Or was that shelved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    No, it’s not shelved. That’s the N17 Milltown to Gortnagunnad Realignment scheme. It has planning and it got €900,000 in the last allocation. It replaces the 3 km of narrow road north of Milltown with a new Type 1 Single carriageway (Click that link, scroll down and there’s a link to the drawings).

    With this and the Knock-Collooney scheme, N17 is in pretty good shape, barring some junction safety works, which are a lot easier to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Good to know its still in progress.

    It will take a lot of high quality design to provide safe junctions. Some bridges will definitely be needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Thunder87


    N13/N14/N15 Donegal TEN-T [planning submission Sept 2025; potential 2028 start]

    I feel like I've been reading of an immediately impending planning application for these projects for nearly a decade at this point.. has there been any querying or scrutiny from anyone on Donegal CC's complete ineptitude here?



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