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Please consider signing the EU Petition "Citizen’s initiative to phase out factory farms"

  • 04-12-2024 02:40AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭


    There's currently an ongoing EU citizen’s initiative to phase out factory farms (this is an approved EU citizen’s initiative, so if it gets enough signatures the EU has to respond):

    It also calls for reducing the number of animal farms over time, and introducing more incentives for the production of plant proteins. Please sign it if you're an EU citizen.

    https://eci.ec.europa.eu/047/public/



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭20/20


    Nope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I'd sign a petition asking for more animal farms. I can't support harmful green policies. Open the farms and open the airports. And this comes from someone who makes all electricity I use From solar. Productive green policies only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    80 Billion Land Animals are forcibly bred into existence every year.

    That's eighty thousand million or 80,000,000,000 and that's every year.

    The world population is only 8 billion - so forcibly bred animals are outnumbering us by 10 to 1

    And we are wondering where all the greenhouse gases are coming from ?

    We are growing plants to feed to animals - we could feed humanity with those plants

    The ratio is 16:1 - feed to meat - 16kg of feed into an animal for 1kg out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    The vast majority of those land animals that "forcibly bred" (whatever the hell that deliberately emotive twisted language is supposed to mean) are chickens. Are you seriously somehow trying to compare a chicken to a human? In what way does a chicken compare to a human?

    We could also plant an awful lot of food on land that is currently used to grow useless tea, coffee and tobacco plantations. But because the vast majority of 'eco warriors' drink or smoke one or more of those drug carrying addictive plants, they are neatly left out of the conversation.

    At least the animals are edible and contribute to the feeding of people.

    Coffee especially is massively environmentally unfriendly.

    If every vegan who lectures me about eating animals gives up drinking tea, coffee and stops smoking then I might listen. Otherwise, don't throw stones from your greenhouse lads.

    And please stop selectively picking statistics or in your case making them up. The FCR ratio you quoted above is totally wrong. For chickens it's ~2:1. For beef cattle it's 6:1. And that's ignoring the fact that cattle Ireland primarily eat grass - and in case you're one of those urbanites who loves to lecture people on what they should eat but actually haven't a bulls notion about how their food gets to a plate - grass grows without needing much help or input.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    Forcibly Bred - it's a valid statement - these animals do not magically come into existence - even the seasonal turkey needs now to be 'assisted' into breeding because it's upper body is too large to pro-create by itself - that is what forcibly bred is - like it or not that is how your 'meat' is made.

    Name calling of those who are against animal suffering is not required - those who love animals do not necessarily become 'eco warriors'.

    I'm not lecturing you - I'm merely pointing out that you can not say the simple words - I love animals when you sit down to eat them.

    Animals are not food on a plate - you decided to pay someone to put them there - I don't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Reduce the no. of farms great plan as all you are doing is getting shut of the small sustainable farmers and replacing them with even more factory farms.

    Just waiting for the farting cows being blamed for climate change to be brought up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Reducing factory farms is a great idea, and I would sign but it won't happen. Humans have become so selfish and care little enough about each other that they won't spend a second thinking about the suffering of animals.

    Post edited by Tom Mann Centuria on

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    factory farms, followed by free-range farms and slaughterhouses, these … also carry the risk of spreading ever new pandemics and health problems (salmonella, avian influenza, etc.).

    Major flaw in your argument there: it's not the farms or slaughterhouses that increase that risk, it's the conversion of forestry and mixed-use farmland into giant, hedgeless, combine-friendly fields for cereal production that concentrates wildlife into tighter spaces and brings them into closer contact with humans and our pets (control of which is noticeably absent from the petition)

    Moreover, like so many of these proposals, they're heavily influenced by statistics and really bad practices coming from the US and suppliers of the US market, where human and animal rights take a back seat to corporate profits and a tradition of over consumption. Putting European farmers out of work will not fix American problems.



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