Does Civil Defence Causality Division do frontline work

FARawayfromparamedic

Hi All,

I’m looking for people who are currently in Civil Defence and or if they’ve recently been in it because I’m looking into changing from Order of Malta to Civil Defence because of Civil Defence having better opportunities and government funding and i’m wondering does Civil Defence do work on behalf of NAS and DFB such as acting as a backup ambulance for when NAS and DFB are struggling with calls we have this is Order of Malta but we don’t get asked as much as i’d like and when it does comes around no one from my unit bothers with it, Does anyone know if Civil Defence has it and if they do how often and what sort of work is it as in Order of Malta it’s mainly Patient Transports and is Civil Defence a better choice then staying in Order of Malta

dickdasr1234

Don't know but they might have spelling classes!

FARawayfromparamedic

go on inform me on what words i've miss spelled, some life you have trolling on boards.ie

RiderOnTheStorm

I worked for NAS for 7 years and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I saw a non NAS ambulance (private ambulance notwithstanding) outside the doors of an ED (going in either direction). Sometimes if there is a sporting event or festival, OoM or CD etc will do duties to provide medical cover and if there is an injury at the event, then NAS / 999 is called to take the Pt from them. As I say, very rarely has that ambulance come to the ED of the hospital with that Pt. And maybe a few times during the height of Covid.

Of course, anyone can transport a person to hospital (taxis and expectant fathers do it all the time). Getting into ED through the ambulance entrance is a different thing ….

You include DFB in your question, so that makes me wonder if the situ you mention re OoM is a Dublin thing? I only have experience outside the Pale (aka M50)

If you want to get more patient contacts / experience, then I can wholeheartedly recommend any local First Responder group in your area (they are under the umbrella of NAS). You will get plenty of frontline experience with the patient and handover to receiving ambulance crews when they arrive. You wont get to go to hospital however. But that is a good thing, as this is where the delays are huge and the interventions are minimal (imho)

Tango Alpha 51

It depends on the voluntary organisation / unit if they will transport to an ED with a pt from an event or not. SJA down the country ie Cork & Limerick would transport if they had one. Again to answer part of your query, each unit will make their own determination about backing up NAS if required. No matter what organisation you wouldn't be responding to 999 calls even if called to back up the NAS, you would be confined to discharges.

sudocremegg

With NAS many years, the only time I've ever seen civil or voluntaries assist was during the beast from the east or covid and it was solely patient transfers as requested by the hospital. I've never ever seen them do emergency work tasked by NAS.

During covid and periods of NASCAP level 4/5 medicall were being contracted by NAS to do AS2's and low priority emergency calls.

To answer your question, no CD do not do frontline work outside PTS or covering large public events or community first responder schemes